Leo Treadwell's Transformation: Navigating Addiction, Health Scares, and the AI Frontier for Holistic Wellbeing

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Whoa. This one is very different from any of the episodes we've had. We get the chance to talk with Leo treadwell. He is the founder of I am the matrix, and the inventor of autobiographical feedback. Autobiographical feedback is an organic intelligence language model designed to implement what we know about human potential and biological programming to prompt exponential evolution. Leo is extremely concerned about the next twenty four to thirty six months. He may have said even shorter, shorter eighteen months. He's very concerned about the immediate future and all the changes that globally are happening with, governments and artificial intelligence and all kinds of different factors. And he, however, sees this as an opportunity. And we get into some in the we definitely get into the weeds on, artificial intelligence and computer programming and, neuroplasticity and, all kinds of, scientific terms and, but we also talk about the businesses that Leo has owned and operated. He's running some pretty powerful I guess, corners and groups, in the past. And, he is a wealth of knowledge. He is It it's one of those you don't I don't even know where to start. There's so much to this episode. It's really hard to summarize to tell you the truth. He lives in the Dominican Republic with his wife and a pillar of close friends. And he's chosen this lifestyle, and he'll tell you it's it's because he created this in his mind years ago, and then it it's evolved and and and, been created because he because of his thoughts. So definitely big on mindset. He's saying, you know, he was into artificial intelligence in the eighties. And so I can't do it anymore justice. You gotta listen up.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 0

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Speaker 2

I'm doing great. Thank you for having me on the show. I appreciate it.

Speaker 0

Absolutely. I am the matrix. I mean, I'm already intrigued. I know we're gonna get into that. For the listener who's unfamiliar with you, Leo, who are you and what are you up to today?

Speaker 2

Well, I'm a fifty four year old man. This is twenty twenty three. Gonna be fifty five. I live in a Dominican Republic on the North Coast, and, I'm married. I, I got four children,

Speaker 0

and

Speaker 2

also divorced. And I'm really enjoying my life and excited about what's, ahead of us in our future right now. I think we're living in an amazing time. I spent a lot of time with friends in, in our small community here of Cabarete, where we meet in the morning, Zap Coffee, we serve, kind of have our town hall meetings and, just have a really good time. It's a lot of contribution that takes place in my life right now in the community that I live in. And, Really? I guess, you know, getting to the once, I guess, you start to get into your fifties or maybe some people earlier or what have you, start to appreciate more of the simpler things like watching a sex or, just appreciating the beauty of life or the individuals, that are around you. That's pretty much

Speaker 0

I love that.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 0

Yeah. I love that. Now that's fantastic. So And I I know we're gonna spend more time there. And we we I'm excited to dive into more of what you've got going on in the in the future, as far as in the near future as far as your own, professional life, but also kind of culturally in in the in the world at large what we have to look forward to in the next eighteen to twenty four months. So we'll put a bookmark in that, and and that's a little teaser. But for the for the listener, you know, who's an entrepreneur or a budding entrepreneur, maybe they're a small business owner, maybe they've had a small business for ten twenty years. And, you know, the the point of the show is to talk to people and identify with people who are going through a hard time who will go through a hard time facing some level of adversity. That's all of us. Right? So I know you've, you and I were kinda discussing before we hit record a little bit about how you've been through quite a bit, checked all the boxes as far as health relationship, financial, probably spiritual. I don't know. You know, challenges and adversity in your own life. Let's jump back into your your mid twenties when you we're dealing with, what ended up being a a health, emergency, you know, situation. Let's let's dive dive into that if you would for us.

Speaker 2

Sure. Well, I think I'd like to start, with a presupposition that for me, All sorts of breakdowns in a diversity are are just opportunities for for growth. And I know those are cliche works. For sure. I think there really are great strategies to incorporate into our lives to Yeah. To actually see them in present moment, in present time while those are happening and be like, Cool. I wonder what I'm gonna get out of this, you know. So yeah. That was not my mindset, though, when I was twenty five years old.

Speaker 0

Yeah. No. I appreciate I appreciate you being real about it because it is easy to to say that, and I'm not saying you can't do that now. But it's easier said than done for a lot of people to to do that in the present moment. So I'd like to start, you know, where with the the adversity that you did face and then walk through and figure out how how did you learn? How did you grow? How did you mature? To get to the point where now you are able to be presidents and appreciate the adversity that you're facing these days. But anyway, what mid twenties, what was the situation? Give us some context.

Speaker 2

Sure. So, you know, I really think it's a privilege for human beings to have a lot of adversity as far as the spiritual development that we gain along the way. So at twenty five years old, was playing basketball in South Mission Beach in San Diego. Okay. And came down from probably a pretty bad shot. Notice I had, like, a pulse and a really super severe sharp pain in my lower back.

Speaker 0

Okay.

Speaker 2

So, you know, I went home laid around for a couple of days, like, on the floor or something just like, wow. This hurts like crazy. And I reluctantly went to the hospital to get checked out, see what was going on. Sure. When I did, you know, he said, hey. It looks like you got about a softball size. You know, could be cancerous tumor between your lower lumbar and your sacrum. That's pressing down on your sciatic nerve, and that's why you're feeling that sharp pain.

Speaker 0

Wow.

Speaker 2

So I was like, okay. And we said, well, I recommend that, you come in and look at it and have that like, looking at having that surgically removed. So I left. And by age twenty five, I had already been through so much adversity. This is just another thing.

Speaker 0

So I

Speaker 2

walked out of the hospital, and, literally looked up to the heavens and gave god the finger and said, what happened? What happened? And decided that I was going to, steal a Ferrari and Robabank And wow. Since mec since Mexico was close, why not, you know, head for the border? And just live life to the fullest? Why not? Twenty five years old. I've already been through all this other stuff. And at that time, I was to say, you win, throw in the towel, you know, like, I'm going out with the bang.

Speaker 0

Right. Right. Got it. So just briefly, I mean, we we don't need to rehash all the first twenty five years of your life, but it just just broad strokes, what type of adversity are we talking about? Like, it, like, I don't wanna spitball. I mean, what what type of things had you already faced before you got this bad news?

Speaker 2

Okay. Broad strokes?

Speaker 0

Yeah. Broad strokes.

Speaker 2

Okay. Cool. If I had a paint roller right now, I'd start on the form of screen and go right up the other corner and cover the entire thing. Okay. And that would say, a felony to begin with. For stealing an airplane from an experimental airplane from the police department. Did a little strip dancing, and, kinda, it's a little bit of a challenge with cocaine crack. Gotcha. And, let's see here. Was kind of an unwanted child, and he was adopted by father and ended up having to home pretty early because of just the way our relationship Okay.

Speaker 0

Yeah. And and yeah. No. Absolutely. I appreciate you being vulnerable and sharing. And here's the thing. We don't we try we're not not we're not trying to compare, you know, you know, but we're trying to put ourselves into your shoes at that point understand where you're coming from, where you've been, and and and kind of what the situation is. So I will say you're not the first, you know, person with a a drug issue or the first bank robber, in fact, episode one with Mark Owens, he had a serious drug issue and was a Robin Banks and turned his life around fascinating episode. But but that's pretty that's, that's not typical of our guests. So that's that's, that's some serious serious stuff. So Okay. And so you rob a car and head to Mexico. Right?

Speaker 2

No. I didn't. I said that was my plan.

Speaker 0

That was your plan. Got it. Alright.

Speaker 2

Plan. Yes. Yes. And Well, how was the plan

Speaker 0

how was the plan foiled?

Speaker 2

Now let let me let me, it's a good question. Let me let me back up a little bit, though, because I kinda made it sound like a pity party for me, and I don't wanna do that because Okay. Same time between age fifteen, leaving home and, twenty five. Yeah. You know, so, you know, part of that pity party is pity party is the fact that I went to six different elementary schools. So I never really had community or something to latch into, and I didn't feel that in my home either. Right?

Speaker 0

I see. Sure.

Speaker 2

I dove into different things. And one of the things I dove into was artificial intelligence at, about age fourteen. And, I mean, I was I mean, we're talking the nineteen eighties. Right?

Speaker 0

Right. Yeah. That might be the thing back then. Right?

Speaker 2

That's even the thing, but I was just, like, I was so committed to using basic computer programming to get machine learning to, self regulate and and learn from its mistakes as I was making I was creating programs and where it could fail. So anyways, I was doing that at fourteen. By fifteen, home sixteen, I own my own sailboat. It's going to school on my own, had a job, bought a con convertible, little red, beautiful vehicle. And, had a, you know, a pretty adventurous life. And at nineteen, I got my first job as a corporate trainer, opened six restaurants for a company called Magic Pan. And then after that, I worked for the largest over the counter brokerage firm in the country, in La Jolla, California. After that, I bought my first business and was building it and, was planning on, and expanding it It was planning on selling it soon. So I was at that point in my life when I was playing hoops, missed the shot, came down and was like, just I've been trying so hard to, like, you know, turn my life around and

Speaker 0

Yeah. Yeah. To do all the right things and get get your life on track. And be successful and productive. So with the I'm just curious, like, how much of a chance it sound it almost sounds like the doctor didn't really know for sure what it was, but we should take it out just in case. What was there any more context you can give?

Speaker 2

No. But, my grandfather played a huge role in my lives, a huge role. And, a lot of time with them. All my summers, we'd be commercially fishing up in a Macau Indian reservation near Canada. And He was, like, freedom fighter didn't, you know, didn't believe all of the information out there about everything from pyramids to JfK to your name. And he was also a very strict constitutionalist didn't trust the medical system. Didn't trust it. So he's, like, he was ingrained into my head. Mhmm. Something perhaps if he don't put me into a nursing home and let me fade away, like, you know, slowly dying course. Allow me the guy on the side of the trail, like, you know, the Native Americans and so forth. And every experience I had with anybody going to the hospital in my family was a negative one. So right off the bat, I was like, I'll get diagnosed. But when it comes to treatment, based on my years of being in, corporate training, I'd heard so much about people. I do Deepak Chopra and this, this, and this. And my systems thinking mind saw a correlation between artificial intelligence in organic intelligence. Oh, it was actually so that was part of the reason shortly after my decision not to steal the car.

Speaker 0

I see. I see.

Speaker 2

That I said, let me dive back into this organic or into artificial intelligence again with using the organic intelligence as a per run prerequisite model.

Speaker 0

Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So and I know we're gonna get will will pick up the the pace as far as your your own personal story. But what what happened with the the potential tumor.

Speaker 2

So one of the guys that I was working with at the time, who was actually a business partner of mine, in the business. I went home and I told my idea about stealing the car and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, jeez. You know? And, when he was going through a community college, at one point, he actually wrote a story saying, you know, it was called like a your friend jumped off a bridge which you follow them. Right? Right. And I talked to a bunch of guys, including him at the jumping off this bridge one night. And, like, that can we do. Right? So he kicked me and he was like, if he says he's gonna do this, he's gonna do this.

Speaker 0

Right. Right.

Speaker 2

And, So I was talking to him and he says, you know, Leo, I'm I'm more open to, you know, these other conversations around, you know, what life's about. You're very, you know, focused on making money about being superficially successful. About getting women, about partying, about looking good. He's, like, maybe consider that this might be something that's there to kinda wake you up to look at healing that part of yourself that you know is, like, trying to cover everything else up with. The superficial success.

Speaker 0

Interesting. And,

Speaker 2

he said, why don't you consider, you know, like, laying off all drugs? Get out of cruddy food. Stop drinking. Get away to the big screen that's bigger than the one that's set up sport bar and, you know, trying to be the the guy in town that has everybody go over every night for a party. And settling to yourself for a little bit. Take a couple of weeks. And, he said, and if he he said, and then Clints yourself, get some exercise, do these things. He said, and then I wanna invite you to to try some mushrooms. And Okay. I was like, no way. I was like, no way, man. I'm not jumping out of a building or thinking I'm gonna buy or do some crazy thing. And he's like, he's like, bro, bro, bro, bro. He's like, man, you smoke crack.

Speaker 0

Yeah. This is nothing. Wow. Okay. So yep. Go ahead.

Speaker 2

Yeah. So anyways, I took his advice. Took a couple of weeks, and I decided to have some mushrooms. And I went out and I had an experience that changed my life. It brings that gap It's not even a gap. It, interfaced my understanding of artificial intelligence with what I was learning about how the body mind operates, and it just, you know, it just blew me in.

Speaker 0

And this was because now now, you know, nowadays, we're hearing more about psilocybin and guided tours and things. And, This was not that. Right?

Speaker 2

This was that. Okay. If you're talking about a guided tour

Speaker 0

That's what I mean. Okay. I don't know a ton about this. I haven't, you know, done it myself, but I've I've just heard, you know, I've talked to people who've done it. And, I guess my my point was it my question really to you is whether or not this was just Like, from what I understand, there's a difference between taking taking mushrooms, you know, with a couple buddies versus going on a guided tour and really going deep within yourself intentionally. Again, I haven't done it, but I'm just curious where what this experience was like for you.

Speaker 2

That's a really good question. Really, really good question because, that's Thank you for asking the question.

Speaker 0

Okay.

Speaker 2

This is when I was in my early twenties. It's thirty years ago.

Speaker 0

Yeah. Yeah. Understood.

Speaker 2

So this really wasn't even a conversation back here.

Speaker 0

Not really. Right.

Speaker 2

And certainly, you know, there was reverberations from the sixties and seventies and people do pass it and things like this. For the most part, it's the eighties. I mean, this was, like, very superficial. Everybody's wearing makeup and the plan bands are a fan etcetera, etcetera. Right? So, first of all, I did it by myself.

Speaker 0

Okay.

Speaker 2

There was no one to guide me. It but I had this I took it seriously. Mhmm. Okay.

Speaker 0

I was

Speaker 2

very intentional.

Speaker 0

Gotcha. My I see.

Speaker 2

My my close friend said, I want you to think about a couple of TV shows you like, because he was trying to relate to me. Okay.

Speaker 0

And

Speaker 2

he also had me read a book before this too called The Way of Peace Warrior. Yeah. I've heard of

Speaker 0

it. I haven't read it.

Speaker 2

Oh, great, buddy.

Speaker 0

I should read it.

Speaker 2

And Yeah. And, actually, the subtitles that book that changed his lives, and I had to agree, like, great thing for my friend to set me up with all these You know? So at any rate, yeah, I was by myself. Yeah. And I I live in a community right now, a spiritual community, very, very spiritual community where the I would say weak spots of it is because plant medicines are used too regularly without the respect that I think, sir. Mhmm. So

Speaker 0

Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2

It's wonderful that, there's programs out there like maps and people like Timothy Leary, alright, Timothy, Paris. And so Yeah.

Speaker 0

Ten terrace. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Who are helping with, you know, integrate therapeutic aspects of this because it's amazing. And I'm not a proponent of telling people to go out and do heroic doses of anything.

Speaker 0

Yeah. That's and that's really what I was getting at. It sounds like you you were taking you were doing this with some real intention of going introspective and and doing some work you know, about your on yourself and looking inward as opposed to just getting high for a few hours.

Speaker 2

Going back to what to finish my sentence, my wife always reminds me what you're saying. He asked me to, think about two TV shows. And he said, think about kung fu and Star Trek. Okay. And then absent yourself, going and having an experience is both mystical But you're gonna understand who you are at a more cosmological level, really integrates with with life as well. And I was like, Both of those are adventurous type of interesting mind expanding TV shows. I'll I'll entertain that, you know. Mhmm.

Speaker 0

Yeah. Okay. So you have this experience and how is your life different on the other side of that experience?

Speaker 2

Yeah. So to begin with, I had the first, real experience of love I think that I

Speaker 0

Wow.

Speaker 2

Like, this light came out of the sky and was like, boom, hit me and was like, You're okay. You're, you're a beautiful guy. Everything that's happened in your life has happened because there's a there's a plan. There's a purpose. There's there's a reason why you experience this stuff. You're supposed to use it to alchemize it. Become more empathetic, to understand other people, stop being so superficial. You know, like, these things are important. Let me show you again what's important. Boom. Get hit with love. Like, boom. You know, like wow. So Pretty much the next day my friends are like, are you an alien? Who are you? What happened to you?

Speaker 0

So now because I know because I definitely wanna get to kinda more of what you have going on today, but before we get there, what so that was obviously So we're from your walk us through the last, you know, thirty years or whatever. We're talking about, how did your life progress both personally and professionally. I know that's a ton that's a a loaded question. There's a ton to unpack there, but sort of after this experience what do things look like for you going forward?

Speaker 2

Okay. So let me if you don't mind, can I throw some broad strokes out again?

Speaker 0

Absolutely.

Speaker 2

Okay. So I was really on purpose and the next starting the next day, I was on purpose, like

Speaker 0

Okay.

Speaker 2

I literally went sold my business, like, within a week and said, I'm taking time off. What a hundred percent attention on integrating what I know about artificial intelligence into the body minds, and I'm gonna figure something out that's never been figured out. So I dove into that. And then shortly after I began to have a whole bunch of my own dark episodes of just things I hadn't dealt with in my life that started to come up us doing, I guess, you'd call it shadow work. Quite a bit. K. I spent a lot of time meditating and eating better and being more careful with my words noticing people I'd heard in the past that I probably wouldn't even have noticed. And I would have just gone over. I was like, oh, yeah, geez. I kinda I heard this person, you know, and, like, maybe I should feel differently when I go into, say hello. Because certainly a week ago, I would've just walked away. What's going on? You know, instead of, like, re pricing like I've done something. You know? So That was a lot for me, man. I mean, I'm twenty five years old going on twenty six. You know, the life of survival was all about me. Sure.

Speaker 0

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And so just layers and layers we're peeling on and continue to But then I still, you know, as I dove into this work, within six months, I didn't have a tumor or any pain or anything to my lower back. I got really that in working with people like Tony Robbins and Deepak Chopra and Les Brown. And at the time, people like Brian Tracy and all this all these guys sharing the stage with them and and introducing this work, but I was so interested in Global change. I was so interested in communicating what I had seen in this vision of where the direction of humanity was going, environmental, technologically, geopolitically, geoeconomically, and seeing this convergence of all of these things happening in the future, the necessity for something like I had created, to be used on a much bigger level. And because there isn't a listening for that, people need to hear how's the word for me?

Speaker 0

Right. Doesn't work for me.

Speaker 2

That's I mean,

Speaker 0

that's the end of the day. That's what what's in it for me. Right? That's that's what we're that's what most people wanna hear. That's how I wired. Right.

Speaker 2

I ended up, like, for a number of reasons, one of them being not even interested in sharing this super important message I had at the time. Okay. So I got out of that, and, I ended up going through it at a more. There's a lot of custody battles, bankruptcy challenges crazy. They're really and just continue to have me look at who I am, who I'm being, how I communicate, what the reverberations from my survival, needy, need for superficial recognition? All of these things still just etched deeply in my psyche that I was working through. Mhmm. I continue to keep addressing. I continue too. You know? Yeah. And that also led to opening several businesses doing really well, even in the time of adversity, training my mind training my mind, be I'm gonna be so busy making things happen that the things happening to me can never take me out.

Speaker 0

Interesting.

Speaker 2

And I actually started to get excited. And there's there's sciences and medical terms for these things that I incorporate into my work. They're very important very important that because when you change the way that you're viewing that adversity, everything from the internal biochemistry inside of the body to the probabilities that the human mind is projecting into the quantum field. We know from double slit experiment entanglement from Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, how we put attention and where we put attention on things affects what we're putting attention on. So inside and outside Mhmm. Our focus isn't correct. If we're not going to get the right meaning,

Speaker 0

Yeah.

Speaker 2

We're on the wrong path because mine is primary. The matter and the results are secondary.

Speaker 0

That's good. So so, yeah, and it's not this isn't just some woo woo positive thinking, some something that's gonna make you, Leo, feel better it actually affects the outcome. That's what you're saying. Right?

Speaker 2

Yes. You want me to tell you why?

Speaker 0

Yeah. Why? Absolutely.

Speaker 2

The average person has thousands of hours of precognitive commitments to what the world is and what things mean. We didn't consciously create these, but because of the environment we live in, they're they're shaped into our response mechanism. So if someone goes through bankruptcy, that means, you know, what does that mean to me as a businessman? What does that mean to me as a man? What does that mean to me as Buy? What does that mean to me as, you know, my definition of success or failure for myself in life? Like, all these things that could mean this stuff easily with no social, nobody's gonna try to stop me from failing that way.

Speaker 0

Oh, right. Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2

No. But I can also have an immediate response that says, what are five things that are great about this? How's it gonna make me a better person? And what evidence do I have around me of other people who've been through situations like this and have came out on the other side freaking kick kick butt. Well,

Speaker 0

and that's that's precisely why we do I do the podcast. Right? Is is exactly what you just said because we're gonna take your story of what you've been through and we're gonna see that he got got through it and got he's a better person because of it, not that we're hoping I don't seek out adversity. I don't know about you, but You know? But but but I mean, that's the point of that's that's why we wanna hear your story is exactly for that reason. So Okay. So, I mean, this is, pretty fascinating stuff for sure. So so just real quickly, the businesses that you've that you've owned and operated? What just broad strokes? What what type of businesses were those?

Speaker 2

So I had a training company for a while. I worked with people like Jane Goodall, Nelson Mandela, United States Navy, marines, law enforcement, many indigenous tribes of North America, Canada, and the United States, sports and five hundred companies like Verizon and so forth back in the day.

Speaker 0

Mhmm.

Speaker 2

Lots tools, did a lot of work with that for skews, near and dear to my heart is my own personal story. And, so I had that training company, which I, you know, enjoy immensely And, you know, worked with the Navy's leadership academies, and that is wonderful. Wonderful. Also had a construction company that I do not been about construction, but at that time, my life, I felt like I needed to remodel my life. So I said, hey, let me open a remodeling company. I'm gonna use this stuff as a metaphor. First job is a three three bath or a four bedroom three bath house remodel.

Speaker 0

Mhmm.

Speaker 2

And I walk into the bathroom and I'm like, Look at all that shit I gotta deal with. That's pretty much been far where my life is right now, you know? And, So I decided to, you know, leverage that opportunity to re to rebuild, take another look at my life and and really look through that lens of, you know, I can do whatever I wanna do. Not a big deal. Anytime to solve those reflect again, like I sold my business before, it set them a specific time on a page. Let me just open a business, then I think it's easy to do. Let me create some systems, build it, sell it, and then get back into what I was doing before, maybe try to find another way to communicate this work to people. Right? So, mobile detailing and then also detailing shops at, Lajoya Beach Tennis Club, Hotel Del Coronado in San Diego. It had trucks that would go out. Do office units from Mexican border, Mexico all the way up to the north end of San Diego County, which is quite a stretch.

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