From Struggling Personally and Professionally to Empowering Others with Innovator Dr. Terrence Johnson

Speaker 1

00:00

 On this episode of the form adversity, to abundance podcast. I got the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Terrence Johnson of I progress, he and his business partner. Run that company. We actually met through Facebook and was able to I was able to get him on the show and it's really a really an interesting podcast is a little bit different from the previous episodes. We have done. It's not as much fun. Focused on business and investing and finance or real estate, it's more, he does run his own business. But we talk more about his some adversity. He's been through such as the passing of his father after Terence had been the caretaker of his father for many years and kind of we touch on the same relationship struggles that he had with his dad, prior to all that and some of his career focused adversity this is Guy who has set out from the beginning. It sounds like to help people. And that's his primary, focus is trying to help others. And so his main area of focus has been clinical / therapy / mental health and you know it's really nice to see the progression that he's gone through on a personal and professional level. We touch on kind of how he Terrence drove himself into the ground in a way where he was really overworking himself and not healthy. And I think now he's on a much healthier track. And yeah, it's really, really interesting. He moved to a new city during the pandemic. He completed his Doctorate, while working full-time, adjunct teaching, and serving as a youth leader at church, which are all great things to do. But I think it speaks to the point that Even serving others, you can take too far and if you end up hurting yourself you got to figure out where that line is. But we do get into some abundance mindset pieces and some really good takeaways. I think this one's really practical for a lot of people. And again, it's more on the mental health side of things versus business, and I hope you enjoy it. Inspiring stories of real people, overcoming incredible odds to live life to the fullest.

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 Welcome everybody, to another episode of from adversity, to abundance podcast. I am your host Jamie Bateman. I am really excited today. We have got a special guest with us today. Dr. Terrence Johnson of I progress Terrence. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2

03:43

 Good, Jeremiah you do bye?

Speaker 1

03:46

 Yeah, absolutely. I am happy to have you. Yeah, I am doing well. Now, where are you located?

Speaker 2

03:53

 So, I am located in Gallatin Tennessee, so I am about 30 miles from Nashville. So, but really from Jackson Mississippi. So that's where I business is located, but I am in Gallatin right now.

Speaker 1

04:05

 Okay? Now how far apart are those two towns?

Speaker 2

04:10

 where like.

Speaker 1

04:11

 Jackson? Yeah, where you are now and where your business is?

Speaker 2

04:14

 So Jason is about seven hours from here? Oh my.

Speaker 1

04:18

 Gosh. That's yeah, give it to you. That's pretty far. Got one note in Jackson Mississippi, that's actually supposed to be paid off today so there are some investors out Real Estate Investors out there who really like Jackson Mississippi.

Speaker 2

04:37

 But yeah you familiar with the defined an area in Jackson.

Speaker 1

04:43

 Nowhere is that.

Speaker 2

04:45

 Fondren is camo kind of up north like North Jackson, but it's a kind of lot of people came. I and Andre have the lot of houses and drilled. So it's kind of like an open coming kind of neighborhood. So that's why a lot of people. So that's where I usually function. Okay.

Speaker 1

05:06

 Got it. So for now you and I connected I think in a Facebook group. So truth be told we don't know each other that well report.

Speaker 2

05:17

 That was good old guy. Had a.

Speaker 1

05:18

 Conversation. Exactly. We traded a few messages and a couple of emails or something, but I can't tell. Your website beforehand, and we talk about your story a little bit and I think it fits perfectly for this show. And like I said, you know, this show is essentially brand-new. I don't have a huge following yet, but I am hopeful that this episode and you're a story can help kind of build on the momentum we have created and also add a lot of value for our listeners and then also add some value as well for you. So for those Listeners who are not familiar with you, won't you let us know who you are? What you're up to.

Speaker 2

05:57

 Today, okay? So like see it like Dem sound bad. But and Johnson my background. I guess I started want to be a helper. So that's kind of where it started from, for me. I didn't know what form that would look like when I was younger. I didn't know. People. Just always like, to talk to me. People would come up to me when I was little and just come talk to me, okay?

Speaker 1

06:23

 Something. I don't know what a good listener, I guess.

Speaker 2

06:25

 Huh. Yeah. So that was part of it but I didn't know what I want to go going into college because at first I thought one like physical therapy or stuff like that. I took off art class and then I thought was architecture. So that's actually what my major was. Okay, architecture. Uh-huh. It's all dark judge made for like a year or so and a Mississippi State. So that's my weight from. So And you know, I was doing models of doing all that kind of stuff, but I feel like I really want to make more of an impact with people, so I changed my major to psychology and so started to kind of come about. But even with dick with that, I still do some other stuff on campus like I wrote for the school newspaper for a year out to peer counselor for a year. I was a tutor was student support services for like disabled. I got different shades of kind of helping different types. Of people. Sure, I graduated, I was trying to figure out what I want to do for grad school actually thought about going to film school and then I ended up getting in counselor education and as my masters in and so it's kind of like student affairs and Community Counseling. Yeah, so my first real job, Was working with adolescent offenders. So kids are having me. You have caught kids, and I will turn the school and kids. Nobody else wanted. Those were my kids, that's why we're here as I started with. So I went home went into the house of the home visits. I talk to the moms and understand grandmothers and went to the schools and whatever. And, so I have seen people go through a lot of different version, right? Sure.

Speaker 1

08:24

 So just, what's kind of high level snapshot of your business today or your, your profession or your role right.

Speaker 2

08:34

 Now. So for me now more of I want to say not nished behind the scenes, but I am more of the Innovation piece. So that's my role in the business is Chief Innovation officer. So I am always looking at trying to find ways to integrate technology into the help and space to do it better. So whether there're online workshops online courses that people get into or using technology in a way that helps us Red and Hertz is because, you know, the social media consumption, we have on our phones and isn't TV. We all getting so many messages from so many different places that we can't really known in tire sales. And I know sounds like a lot of issues are because we can't hear ourselves. People tell us what we should know what we should be, how we should fit. What we should you know, live what we should drive. We got all these different messages but like but it that what I really.

Speaker 1

09:43

 Want, now that's really good and I think of Technology kind of like I think of money or a lot of other things where you know, not to get too philosophical but that they're not Technologies, not evil or good, it's not, you know, money is not evil or good. This is just my opinion, a very powerful. Right. Extremely powerful and can be used for good and can be used for bad and so it sounds like you're doing your part to try to kind of be a positive role model and Influence People in a positive way in the technology space. So how long has your business been around for?

Speaker 2

10:32

 So 2019, will we both officially went full of time? But we have had the business since around. Round think 2016, but we both my business partner and I, we were both working full-time. So before I transition full-time into the business, I was a professor. So I was looking for a college professor for I was factor for four years, and I was a jump for like three before that. So, I talked to him told him I am like seven years. Okay. So, so some of the things that I do now is taking elements of the teaching part counseling for all these different things. Bring them together.

Speaker 1

11:15

 Yeah, that's cool. Our listener base, you know, we do appeal to investors and small business owners and a lot of our audience has that mindset of, hey, I want to leave my full-time job that, you know, some point. And that's a whole different discussion. It's a very personal thing. I just recent, I was, I have been part-time at my quote unquote real job since for about the last seven, eight years but actually just resigned myself to finally, fully go into business full time. And I know that's kind of like the dream, so we can touch on that later. Yeah, but what I would like to do is, is kind of go through one or two examples. I hate to be too, you know, quick about it because I know and you being a counselor you can probably tell me how I should be doing this, right? But as far as, you know, on this show we do want to drill down into some adversity and some difficulties that people have been through on a personal level. Certainly there. We never, you know, go we don't go too far into that. I mean because for one thing we don't have unlimited time here.

Speaker 2

12:26

 Bye.

Speaker 1

12:27

 So I would like to hit on one or two things that kind of stand out in your own personal background, as far as challenges that you faced and then maybe we can, we will see where it goes. We can maybe touch on some of the adversity, you have dealt with, you know, as a counselor or a professor or in your current role. So you know, you can kind of go back and walk us through your background if you want to approach it that way. Or if you want to jump right to Something that was a really challenging time for you. Whichever way you want to go with it.

Speaker 2

13:02

 Works. Yeah. Well I think well I will go to a reason one and then our cargo bay. Okay. Perfect the quickly way. So one, one thing I like that, I like the name of the pocket of thing is so many different ways. So many different takes you can take on it. But like, November last year, I lost my dad. And so, that was something that As part of my story, it wasn't that I was like, not anticipating it happening. I just was anticipating the happening, right then, but one of the things that made that not as a bad of a situation because we had time to like men our relationship. So we had a chance to talk about a lot of stuff that we did talk about, you know, when The younger dad might have barriers to stuff and I think that's the lesson to certain something with adversity. Sometimes adversity forces you to do things that you probably wouldn't do. If the best case scenario was going on, right? Neither have my I need to do this. Well, I need to say this or I need to make sure that I am telling people around me how I feel. So if that day, or when the day comes and you Not have person around. You don't have that regret and so me, Dallas won the thing because that's one thing. As people age me out that my dad had like, how do you feel like I am at peace because he's at peace. I didn't have anything left to say to him. Gotcha. You know.

Speaker 1

14:49

 So speak to your relationship with your father if you would. Yeah, as far as you said, you got to say some things you hadn't said before, or yeah, we're there. You know, no relationship is perfect but where they wear their issues or where it was, it more just like things you are. Glad you got to say or what, you know, how was your relationship before, you know, before the.

Speaker 2

15:12

 Past. So before you pay it was great like the last probably 10 years, Like my day of my best friend. Okay, that wasn't the case.

Speaker 1

15:27

 What's the case before.

Speaker 2

15:29

 It was before but just with anything is learning to, actually communicate, how you really feel about things, even if might be difficult for people to.

Speaker 1

15:42

 Accept that sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2

15:44

 But not coming from a malicious place or like oh you bad. I like I am just telling you how I felt about certain things so it's like The part where my dad was a part of my life. You know. When I was younger we did a lot of stuff together and then wasn't around and it was like did they never going on? So I Dynamics change in our family, and I was still holding on today when I went into college. So that was so there's a lot of my like going and determination and achievement was like I gotta prove a point. And as I got older, I realized I didn't have to prove anything to like him or me and it made it like, I am not chasing things now. It's like I do it because I feel like I am later called to do versus. I need to do it so people can see it. People can validate me for doing. I just feel like.

Speaker 1

16:46

 It's a different perspective and a different mindset. Okay, so then but things progressed and over the last 10 years you guys were much closer.

Speaker 2

16:59

 Yeah. And we must close because I was I did a lot of caretakings for my dad so.

Speaker 1

17:06

 He was. He was sick.

Speaker 2

17:08

 Yeah he's a guy like yeah, aneurysm about 10 years ago had like a stroke hit like so the whole time I was doing that like in school and all that kind of stuff. I was taking care of him too.

Speaker 1

17:21

 That's a lot but my wife's mother was sick for, you know, several years, and she did a lot of she and her sisters. Both did a lot of the caretaking and yeah, you know, it wears on everybody, you have including the rest of the family right now and it's a whole family is a whole it's a big it's easy to cross right over that. I took care of my dad for you know, it's like implies a lot. So that's all my toes to you for doing that. So then, is there anything else you wanted to touch on that topic?

Speaker 2

18:01

 Not? I think one thing that get out, preciate it, what it taught me how to sometimes give in ways that you don't necessarily receive back. Like I you say with the caregiving, some stuff, Yield. You might not be able to get back because of the condition of the person you take care of sure. And so you invest a lot of time and energy into getting them back. Nothing on his life. How do I get back?

Speaker 1

18:33

 What's in this for me?

Speaker 2

18:45

 I was at a point where I could do that, like I had the space to do that and because I wanted to do it even if right challenging at times but and like it comes back around so it's like I think anything you do for people even if that person is not able to reciprocate in the same way, it's going to come back around to.

Speaker 1

19:09

 You some. Yeah, now that's great. I mean it's just a servant You know, mindset and attitude. And we could certainly use a little more of that in our culture today, I think looking out for each other and their loved ones and so, okay, so that's a recent example, you mentioned, maybe some adversity that was taken place earlier on in your, in your upbringing.

Speaker 2

19:37

 I think one of the main and verses for me has been Like near and down. What I want to do because I can different thing. It's like how do I Like choose one. Yeah. And for me, I believe. So just like with my dad, that's that then opens up a different story that connects to somebody but I have also been to the place where I burned out like I had to have an emergency appendectomy because, well, like that happened, while I was at work, I work at work. I think I was just finishing up like a workshop on campus, Because I work in. Countless in, before I start full-time, teaching ideas, wasn't good at taking care of myself. And like, I literally went in went to my doctor. He referred me for MRI. They get the results, and they say, hey, we gotta pay you for surgery. I like when they like now, look, I got one, I got one. Wow, but I went on and got checked out. And if I went to work But they caught him before I wrote s***. And so like I have had.

Speaker 1

21:06

 That. Yeah.

Speaker 2

21:08

 You know, it's just different thing. Sure. And is your body's way of life. Hey, look. I know you're trying to do this, and they try and realize that. Hey, you need to sit down for me.

Speaker 1

21:20

 Is that you say weren't taking good care of yourself just briefly? Is that like, just working too much or not eating the right Foods or not exercising, or.

Speaker 2

21:28

 What lying, all of the above all Because it's like either. I can even balance to well eating healthy exercising doing that. Or I am not and then I am not sleeping. Like I need to I mean and fried foods yeah, kind of stuff and so it's kind of maintaining that balance of knowing what works best for my body. Sure. So after that I made a point and at that time I was still you know, they were still in the hospital back and forth, so I was still doing a lot of the other stuff too.

Speaker 1

22:02

 Yeah, not just work, right?

Speaker 2

22:03

 Yeah, it was really like a lot of different stuff and so but me and self-care became more of a focus for me. So I became more holistic. So I got in the more vitamins and stuff and doing nature walks and all that kind of stuff, obviously, got in the rookie in which I enjoyed it. So yeah, it just certain things had to happen. Yeah. I and you can take evaluation or assessment of.

Speaker 1

22:35

 Yourself. Well, and it's like it to me that just kind of reminds me that, you know, even if your profession is, maybe a noble one or right here or maybe your, you know, certain you're serving at your church or your volunteering. Like, you know, I know people who have gotten sucked into doing that way too much, and I don't think I am on the verge of that at this, Point. But no, but I mean and if anything to an extreme can be bad, I guess is really what I am getting to is. So even though you had set out to be a, you know, to serve other people, help other people, you know, you were running yourself into the ground and that doesn't do anyone any good in the long term including yourself so well. So why don't we transition, you know, to maybe one or two? Kind of examples of adversity that you have dealt with from a professional standpoint. Obviously, we're not going to get into who we're talking about, or yeah, probably about some of the details. But, but yes, speak to one or two examples you have seen because you do have a unique, you know, perspective and you're not. I haven't had anyone to show yet that's got your background or your position. So this is this ought to be interesting.

Speaker 2

23:59

 Yeah, for me. To, like, I got the most recent one was one last year, so I apply for a fellowship and I spent probably about a month before it opened up for the window to submit before, you know, I was already getting stuff together, right and stuff up, research and stuff. So I speak.

Speaker 1

24:25

 For the, for the listener out there. What does that mean? Exactly. Okay. So fellow, what is the fellowship? Okay, so a Phyllis you.

Speaker 2

24:31

 Basically. Like the one that I was applying for was for like social entrepreneurship. So people and using that want to do like greater good things too like impact the community. So basically it's like funding for you to continue to work on what you.

Speaker 1

24:51

 Working on. Okay. That's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2

24:54

  and so I was like okay this is the one. This, is it? Yeah just way to connect the other people and move around. They have like a mentorship component. Point to it, where you can kind of connect other people, so you had to do pretty well just like you do a business pitch, but you had to do a like a proposal thing, okay? Got it. So that's why I did the month of prep for doing all that kind of stuff. Had to do, like a quick video, explaining what I want to do and all that then I actually had to submit, I had two weeks to submit it and it's probably like a year ago like April last year to God that time I am literally like an all day every day. Working on. This is immediate the day of. So like a two-week window, I think of this Sunday. This is made by. Okay. I am waiting, okay. They say they're supposed to be you know covers right? Right, right. Wait. And then I give the email. Hey you know thank you for submitting. But unfortunately you know when I am moving forward where you know moving forward to next round da And I am like devastated. Something like okay like what I am supposed to do. But what I did is I kind of took a couple hours me to go ahead and feel it. They're like.

Speaker 1

26:17

 Yeah. All right. Sounds good. Yeah you got to wallow a little bit and feel.

Speaker 2

26:24

 This The today energy and to, some of the stuff that I wrote up for that and then use that for the foundation for the online, course I.

Speaker 1

26:42

 Built. Okay.

Speaker 2

26:44

 Guys, so cool. I didn't just throw it away. Yeah, I repackaged it and runs away. And so now, people are starting to get into the course and have been benefiting people in might have, might not be at the level and the page that I wanted. Yeah, but I didn't have to waste it. So that rejection initial rejection. You just wasn't the format for that particular thing.

Speaker 1

27:10

 Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. One of the guests we have had on, is fuquan. Bulow, he does. He's a real estate investor, but he was talking about when you know, and again, it takes time to for this to happen. It's not a something bad happened. I will see this as an opportunity immediately, it's, you know, no one. You got to feel it like you said, but you eventually, you can Around to see that adversity as another door opening or A New Path that's created for you and it may not have gone the way you thought it would but there's still good that can come out of it and so that's really good. So use that energy to kind of redo redirected that energy and that some of that content maybe or towards your online courses and Your current business model? It sounds like so, how about any examples of tough situations you have dealt with from a counseling standpoint or you know that other people have been through. You have worked help them work through.

Speaker 2

28:19

 so because I am not necessary in the clinical peace. Now sure we're friends it. But when I was doing heavy clinical work, Some of the most difficult things that I had to deal with a client that had a lot of grief and loss. And Have not. It wasn't necessarily a lot to move them from grieving too like accepting that. But for me, I am a, I am an all in person, and so I don't know how to, like way do something. So from he went on when I encounter somebody, even when I was teaching, know, whatever like ever roll on me, and I am stepping into the world of the people that I am helping and it will do It is a lot of energy because as a therapist I am not counseling, you try to tell you what to do, right? When what you're telling me, I am trying to step into your world and then show you your world back to you.

Speaker 1

29:29

 Yeah.

Speaker 2

29:30

 There's a lot.

Speaker 1

29:31

 There's a lot on you.

Speaker 2

29:33

 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1

29:35

 Yeah. I mean, know, I joke that, you know, that I know my wife, you know, tells me about empathy and I, you know, I know, To spell empathy at least. But now I mean it is its I think part of the reason we create this kind of arm's length distance is because we know it's going to be challenging on ourselves emotionally and taxing from an energy standpoint like you said. And yeah. So I guess looking back at your in your clinical time what lessons would you say that our audience could use to, you know, to apply Just generally speaking to help people get through adversity and get to more of an abundance mindset.

Speaker 2

30:19

 What people are amazing. Like and so, to the one thing that I would say this unique about being in the mental health field is here. Stories are you here version of the world that everyday people don't get to hear? Whatever you think the world is or what you hear on TV or whatever. That's not real world. When people come into the room and talk about their real life, would you hear people complain about or like, you know, go back and forth and be on Twitter or social medias?

Speaker 1

31:02

 Like right? No, no real life.

Speaker 2

31:05

 You don't know real life. These people really live in real life and I really feel moving forward without a challenges. Other things. So it's like one is dead where it's like people way more resilient than they give this a credit for but to it helps me as a person not to think that my situation is so bad.

Speaker 1

31:28

 Yeah, yeah. Now that's really good. I like both of those things that are related to each other, but I was actually listening to a podcast yesterday, trying to get this guy on our show too, but his name's AJ Osborne. But he I didn't realize how much But, you know, he's been through all kinds of just major health issues and was paralyzed for a long time. And really, really challenging circumstances, but he was saying the same thing is that people don't understand how much they can go through. Like we underestimate ourselves as far as what we're able to handle, and then like you said, and just having that perspective of Okay, maybe if my you know, takeout order got messed up today. Maybe that's not the end of the world. Yeah, because this person over here is dealing with something serious. So, that's something that's help. Me. Just this show, as help me already, you know, just having some perspective, and, you know, I have had my share of adversity, but it's, you know, and, and I try not to get into comparing too much, but it is, but It is healthy. I think to see somebody else's struggles and, and just to say, you know what, I have got a pretty good.

Speaker 2

32:48

 Yeah. I am at the end of the day we are all human, and we made and that's one thing. As far as mental health, people always feel mental health is for people that are mentally ill or depressed, or they say it. But really each one of us has a journey that Home, and we ought to try to figure it out. Yeah, so and that's why I don't, I don't really like to be set apart from people, like even with, you know, people know my background or my three, whatever read it in the day, I am still a person. Just like you are and I still have of I had to deal with and go through and make myself better as well. So it's like I think sometimes that's what makes people feel like. Oh, It's not for me to get better all do life. I want I can't achieve that because look at this person, look what they're doing and look how they did. It's like, no, like if you I got up to people, tell me about if I all want to be like, you have to know, be like you said, you don't want to hear about it, but it was it made me think about. I don't know if you watched I think it was an interview, you know, John petite, Jon Batiste. The one that's on kohlberg Colbert.

Speaker 1

34:19

 Show. Yeah.

Speaker 2

34:21

 So he won the grandma stuff like so ago. So and so this is like, the best time in his life, but at the same time, his wife is going through cancer and like chemo. Three minutes in like, cancer came back. She was in remission for a lot of years, and so The time he was making the album, his wife was in the hospital the whole time. Hmm. Why? He had this great thing happen to him and in the same time he still got his wife, they got stuff going on. I suppose like it can be the best and the worst of time at the same time and if you have you know the Bund is easy. It doesn't feel as abundant because it always has an undercurrent of like some s. You go through.

Speaker 1

35:06

 Sure. Yeah. You know, and again with our show at You know, we talked before we hit record that adversity, can take on many forms and abundance can take on many forms, and I never want to present it like, oh, Somebody went through 20 years of adversity and now they have going through 20 years of abundance or something like that. It's not like that. But there are definitely lessons we can learn from adversity and our mindset is critical and obviously, you know, that better than I do. But so, as we start to move toward, The end of the show here, I am going to fire off some, some rapid fire questions, who are you? And then, and then we can talk a little bit at the very end about your business and wrap it up. All right, fire these off quickly. All right, what do people misunderstand about? You.

Speaker 2

36:02

 Animal fun part and I like the layup. Okay. And I am a native part inside. You put me outside by water. I am good, a.

Speaker 1

36:11

 Nice feel like it. What was one of your biggest failures and what did you learn from that experience?

Speaker 2

36:18

 One of my biggest failures was I think. The first one I really felt that was a fail, but it really wasn't me changing my major. I thought that was like the end of the world at that point because I like people had invested money and stuff and being a whole big thing. But it really wasn't, you know, maybe people like, okay cool that what you want to do.

Speaker 1

36:46

 So I can relate to that and you mentioned not knowing what you want to do. And yeah, honestly, I bounced around a little bit after college and I transferred colleges. And I did probably A little bit of guilt with that because of the investment that had been made in the original situation and you know, I switched majors and that's yeah, that's its, that's an interesting one. But, you know, looking back at your only working with the information you have at the time and you know what else can you do? But if you had to speaking of that, if you had to go back and give your 18 year old self some advice, what would it be?

Speaker 2

37:29

 What I would give by 18 year old self. Hey, I think I was off more than I would tell him that. You got a journey ahead but you will be better because of.

Speaker 1

37:44

 There you go. I like it. All right, if you could have coffee with any historical figure, who would you choose? I didn't prep him for any of these.

Speaker 2

37:55

 Questions. Yeah.

Speaker 1

38:01

 It doesn't have to be your favorite. You can pick one of you know, 10.

Speaker 2

38:14

 Bruce.

Speaker 1

38:15

 Lee. Okay, why?

Speaker 2

38:19

 So there's another fun fake. So I got a black belt in.

Speaker 1

38:22

 Karate. How nice cool.

Speaker 2

38:25

 So yeah, Ruth lie, I would been nice. I would like people that innovate. Yeah.

Speaker 1

38:31

 Yeah, he was Italian.

Speaker 2

38:33

 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1

38:35

 I just drag my kids Saturday to watch my In law, and my niece get test for their Taekwondo black belts. And I don't know if we have gotten word yet, but, you know, that was, that was pretty fun. They had a lot to go through. I did that years ago as well but yeah, martial arts. I always say there's not one best martial art, you know, they all have things you can learn from them and apply but yeah, Bruce Lee, that's a good one. All right, let us see here. We're almost done. And what is a book or two? You'd recommend for our.

Speaker 2

39:14

 Audience, okay? So I am a book person to one would be claim your power by mast and.

Speaker 1

39:22

 Kip, okay, I don't know. That.

Speaker 2

39:24

 One, it's like a 44 today, like journaling type book. It was a book that I read when I was starting kind of like that shift in the taking better care of myself and figure out what I want to do in my life. So after more, okay, the other one would be, I would say, steal like an artist by Austin kleon. Okay. So basically, and it is cool to like a look little book, look coffee book and use the illustration to kind of do it. So, it's a real quick read but it's about ideas and about how you get ideas from anywhere and everywhere. It's not emulated it, but you still in need You build on it, like your take on it but that's basically what it is. Everything we want to do create is not necessarily I creation. It's like somebody, and then we kind of take our spin on.

Speaker 1

40:24

 Well I mean it gets back to the Innovation piece. You were talking about it if you don't have to maybe recreate the wheel but you might be able to improve it or that's pretty cool off to have to haven't heard of either one of those. So I will have to check those out. What's one question? You wish? I would ask you that I haven't.

Speaker 2

40:44

 Asked. Oh, cuz Imma Be I am a big music fan. Okay. Move man, so either like, what's my favorite movie or like was a song that I am listening to right?

Speaker 1

41:00

 Now? Well, you know, I have to ask those snap. All right. What's one of your favorite movies?

Speaker 2

41:09

 My favorite, one of my favorite moves. It cried a kid. I love karate, guys.

Speaker 1

41:15

 Original their original. Yeah, we yeah. We just watched. Yeah. The second one with the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

41:22

 And yeah. I love karate. Kid, ever. That's what we want to take her, right?

Speaker 1

41:29

 Yeah. What kind of music do you?

Speaker 2

41:30

 Like? Everything I like J is 2. I get there from my dad. Somebody aging, and he used to play in a band in college.

Speaker 1

41:43

 So okay. What did he play?

Speaker 2

41:46

 I think I would get it confused. All of the trombone or the trumpet. There's one of them. Yes. So got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1

41:57

 Okay, well yeah, I appreciate you humoring me with those rapid fire questions. And so they're not always the easiest, make it yeah. Make you think on your toes I guess but so once you talk a little about your business and you know how our listeners can reach out to you.

Speaker 2

42:15

 Yeah so at progress has a dual meaning so it's little I and in progress like the p is capitalized because you know I think about like iPhone iPad. Yeah, resident the technology piece to, but also our privacy like little eye and then capital P because most people think that, you know, Advance themselves are making yourself better as for them but really, you make yourself better? So everything else around, you can improve it put, like I am getting better because then that will help my family or like my community, or all. Right well part of and so that's kind of Take. So I am more of the life purpose, part of our progress. My business partner is healthy relationships, so he does a lot of work with couples. He still does a lot of (Dara) P. So, and he has a relationship journal on Amazon that people can get. And so that's kind of like the ballot whole person. If you got to make what you supposed to do and you have healthy relationship with yourself and other people then and that makes you a whole.

Speaker 1

43:32

 Person. Sure. Can you talk to my son for me? Just kidding, but so okay, so within those, what are you, what kind of just briefly what are the main products you mentioned the journal? But yeah, how does it? How does it actually manifest itself? What are people paying for? All.

Speaker 2

43:50

 Right, so from me both of us just got back started doing virtual workshops. So I am doing One right now. So I am doing dream killers. And that's something I have worked on for a while, and so we kill this. Use it for personas. You have people pleaser over-thinker a dreamer and outer. So, all these personas, we have inside of the halogen from recovering people pleaser helpless. So I would have to balance that out. And it makes sense because it might be talking about mental health, top is a subject but in a way that's relatable because as soon as I said, all four of them, You like okay, I am this one of them. That's what I give. So is there any connection? And so that's that uh I just finished that's going to be an online course as well. So eat mice. Yeah, modules that go through each. One with short video clips, the other one is past the purpose and that's really the Journey of starting out at the crossroads you get a Crossroads the life. Like I don't know which road to take and figuring out. What do I really want to do with my life? And that journey of, you know, what do I need to be? Who I need to connect with all that and so it's on your phone like online course. So that's passed. The purpose of those are the two main things for me for this journey, and so they will be in Workshop form online Forum, as well as I am trying to do them live and really get back in front of people, I miss different people. So try to do that. And so those are my two. My business partner has combos with couple. Has that he does. So it's you know, basically what it is. Come space with couples online about different nothing through the Journey. He has journeyed to healthy relationships, and he does another one called, No Junk Food conversation there for like single to count on the figure out you know, getting them on the track to finding a relationship. They won't against not being involved with people, just gonna waste a.

Speaker 1

45:54

 Time. Yeah, let us not waste time. Let us cut to the chase, right, let us go. Yeah, I think that's good to have more quality conversations because, you know, you look back. You know, like I didn't actually have that much time with that person, you know. So as we wrap up here I really appreciate you coming on. How can our listeners reach out to you? I know your website is I progress that CC? Ha. Yeah the other ways that our listeners can find you.

Speaker 2

46:20

 The easiest way would be email. So info it out, progress. Cc.com. By the easiest way we're on Facebook. You can follow us at our progress CC on Facebook Instagram, both myself and my being a partner with both on LinkedIn. So if you want to reach out directly, if you own LinkedIn, you connect with us there. And if you want to get in contact, just follow up. Do a one-on-one. Like I said, I have my calendar link. So if you want to counter Followed by whatever you have some questions or whatever. That's fine. I think, what I do is I have a link that has all of that on there now like perfect and I can send it to you.

Speaker 1

47:08

 Yep. I can put it in the show notes.

Speaker 2

47:10

 Yeah. And, and if people want to just have a glimpse of some of the stuff that I talked about, I have a like, a one-pager page, like a once she The Thing, Once you Pro that has clips of my previous Podcast, interviews, you know, overviews of the workshops are done, so people time more than that. That to.

Speaker 1

47:34

 I did watch the short video, you have of your, where you were your previous where you're at your job before. Yeah, you look tired. I mean, I am not gonna lie laughing at yourself, which was hilarious, you know.

Speaker 2

47:49

 Yeah. I got a whole other video clip for those so.

Speaker 1

47:53

 Yeah, that was pretty funny. And not funny that you went through that, but it was a funny presentation of it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's, you know, we think of I am tired from Ida got a bad night's sleep or, you know, very short period of time but now you look like weeks and months and maybe years.

Speaker 2

48:13

 Tired like, yeah, that's how I got. That's all I got. Here is a piece of this. That's the new Journey. Me, transitioning and leaving. Jackson Lee appear in basically start back over pretty.

Speaker 1

48:30

 Much gotcha. Yeah, cool. All right, well, this has been really good. The other joke I was going to make is if you get to Big Apple's going to you know either sue you or try to buy your website — right? Exactly. All right. Well Dr. Terrence Johnson, really appreciate you joining us today. Like I said, we didn't know a ton about you and I think it's been really helpful for everyone. I know you have added a lot of value, so I really appreciate it. Thanks a lot for coming on.

Speaker 2

49:08

 Thank you, I appreciate.

Speaker 1

49:09

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Speaker 2

49:45

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Speaker 1

49:49

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Speaker 2

49:52

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Speaker 1

49:57

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