From Divorced Debtor to Influential Investor and Leader with Army Veteran Brent Bowers

Speaker 2

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 On this episode of the form adversity to abundance podcast. I got the chance to chat with Brent, Bowers, Brent, we had on the Good Deeds show Chris and I were 17, I interviewed, Brent a while back due to his primarily, his land flipping business, he's in real estate wholesaling flipping coaching, he's got a bunch of kind of ancillary businesses. He's a former Army officer and went through Lot of adversity, he went through a divorce. A lot of adversity with at what? Well, I guess in 2008. He lost his everything kind of went downhill for him. At that point he started in real estate and then quit got divorced, and we talked about his struggles in the military and particularly with family life because of being in the military working. So many hours also working, you know, businesses outside of the military and kind of the juggling, all of that. And yeah, Brent is a hustler, he's a mover and a Shaker, he's an action taker. He drops a ton of knowledge in this about real estate mindset and kind of just moving through adversity, he quotes the Bible in this about, this too shall pass, you know, it's really inspiring to see what he's been able to do, and to hear his backstory, we dive into his backstory a lot more on this. One and his mindset. So I really hope you enjoy it and I know I did. Thanks.

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02:27

 Welcome everybody, to another episode of from adversity, to abundance podcast. I am your host Jamie Bateman, and I am thrilled today that we have fellow podcaster and fellow real estate, investor, Brent Bowers Brent, how are you doing today?

Speaker 1

02:45

 And just at that entro that the fellow podcaster. I mean just thinking about that a year and a half ago I had never been on a podcast and now I am being a hold of Todd Caster. So I love it. I feel elevated already. Yeah.

Speaker 2

03:00

 Just very much made my week just now well. And we also have we were both Army. Captain's, we have that in common, so we can talk. No, I was not a captain. Oh, you were an army officer first, lieutenant.

Speaker 1

03:11

 I got the heck out before they readings Captain because that's a lot of responsibility.

Speaker 2

03:19

 Yeah, well I wasn't too far behind you and getting out though, but Anyway, I am excited to have you. I asked Brent for the listeners out there, asked Brent before we hit record, you know which business do you want me to associate with you with the, you know, because Brent you have got what five or six businesses that people know about it, at least?

Speaker 1

03:41

 Yeah. That's right. The ones I tell people. There's something that I need to tell my wife about not that they're weird or anything. Yeah. But he would just be like, are you serious? So, I just stopped talking to her about it. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2

03:52

 Pretty. Yeah, that's it. I have That point to where it's like. Yeah, just created a business yesterday. So but yeah, Brent Bowers the land man. You said what might be a good one or the land shark.com? I know is one of your sights, right?

Speaker 1

04:09

 Yeah, we got the land sharks that cam. That's the one. I am one of the ones that it's more expensive, my more.

Speaker 2

04:15

 Exciting businesses, I should say, gotcha, well before we dive into your background, want you to touch on exactly kind of what you have going on today. I know it's Seven trillion things but kind of at a high level. Who are you? What do you do?

Speaker 1

04:30

 Yeah, who I am. I am a real estate investor. I am a business owner. I have a team like and let me put some emphasis on my team. I literally just hung up with my executive assistant. She lives in Florida as well, but she's pretty much in the middle of the state. And I told her, I was like, I couldn't do it without you. Ladies, like, you guys pretty much run the show, most of the time they're telling me what's going on. I am the guy is like, hey, We should do this, and they're the ones just like, we will have you thought about this mat like the first of the, the second, and third order effects of it. So I didn't always, it wasn't always like that though. 2007, I just got my real estate license. I always wanted to be a real estate rock star. And I had to take that freaking test like three times. I have a lot of excuses. Why? But here we go, it just took me three times and passed the Florida. Real estate license and then I am one of those guys, I just take action. I bought my first rental in 2007 right after I got that license, and then 2008 happens. And like, it's like someone ripped the rug right out from underneath me and I quit. I pretty much quit on.

Speaker 2

05:41

 Real estate. Okay, now we're gonna get into that. I and for those who are unaware, Brent was on, you were on our Good Deeds, note investing podcast with Chris and me, and we I had some feedback from somebody afterwards, it was like actually recently, he's like, oh, I remember that guy. That guy is at that, dudes. A hustler, man. I got as a baller.

Speaker 1

06:03

 So yeah, wait a minute. You must listen. Somebody else's podcast.

Speaker 2

06:08

 Yeah, he probably he meant the host, I am sure. Okay. But that's what he meant. But no, I mean from your story, I do recommend the listeners go back and listen to that because, you know, there's we're not going to cover all of that detail here, but as far as your investing story, but you are definitely an action taker. Her for sure. So, so 2008 well, I guess quitting can be an action.

Speaker 1

06:30

 Right? Yeah. Absolutely. We all need it, you know? Yeah. Remember my freshman year in high actually no it was my sophomore year in high school football.

Speaker 2

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 I.

Speaker 1

06:43

 I was going to quit and my dad talked me out of it because I was doing two-a-day practices in the summer. While running my lawn service that's just smoked, and I was like I shouldn't be doing this as a kid like I got it. Head again. I am like, what am I doing all this and my dad just talk to me about your team like you're going to let them all down if you quit and like I will never forget that advice and then it's just like here we are talking about adversity to abundance, that's my adversity. Like I quit in 2008 when I shouldn't have but it all worked out really well.

Speaker 2

07:15

 So we will go back into your backstory, but so. So right now, what do you have going on? Kind of, you have got a land flipping business. And what else do you have? Going on.

Speaker 1

07:26

 Yeah I quit until about 2013 it started back up but this today currently have a team there small team there's about 10 of us, and we just hired an in-house accountant to kind of keep our oh wow. Look straight, we outran our fractional CFO and bookkeeping service and all that we're playing catch-up. But we flip houses, we flip land and my favorite My, the Holy Grail of passive income is we create notes, and that's how you and I met Jamie, we create notes by selling land on seller financing. And it's like literally the best kept secret ever. I mean, I buy a piece of land at 30 40 cents on the dollar and sell it for 100 cents on the dollar plus interest in the longest term possible and sometimes 10 to 15 x, our money on land. But actually I should use it's actually more than Ten to Fifteen X if we borrow the money to buy it. Yeah. Turn around and Arbitrage. It's actually an infinite return.

Speaker 2

08:32

 because you don't have any money left in the deal. That's awesome. So, and that's kind of your, what would you say is your primary focus right now from a business?

Speaker 1

08:43

 Standpoint, you know, it varies. I kind of step back into my land business because the last year and a half, I really been focusing on growing the land sharks. I teamed up with whole selling ink as My kind of publishing agency to start teaching people how to buy and sell land and create businesses around it. And we really had a strong emphasis, I was teaching a lot of veterans and active-duty Military because I speak that language. That's I literally was running from that because I was always deployed and always going and always a way and always training. So I needed to get out because I wanted to see my children more often. So, I talked very well to people that are kind of going through that same thing, but that's been my focus for the last year and a half. I have now started Step back into my land and dusting business because I want to keep building that, and I am not where I want to be. I am seeing what's possible with all my students? Several of my students have built businesses that make mine look like a little dwarf.

Speaker 2

09:40

 So now mine's you're doing a good job, right? You're good to.

Speaker 1

09:43

 Guess for a while, I was just jealous. And then I was like, okay I am a good coach but now I am inspired because I am like, holy crap if they can do it. Yeah. I am the guy teaching it. I am going to rain.

Speaker 2

09:55

 Lotus thing out. That's awesome. Now that's the abundance mindset that we're going to get to. So as we back up here, let us get back in your backstory and obviously this show is about overcoming adversity. You get through adversity, we all face challenges in life. You and I are still going to have adversity going forward, so we're never done with that. And, you know, it's not a light bulb, kind of switch from adversity to abundance, but I know, I know that you have been through some challenges in life so you can pick it up wherever you want. As far as childhood adolescence, you know, military, whatever you want to start with, but let us hone in on a couple of maybe one thing that stands out from an adversity standpoint that you faced?

Speaker 1

10:42

 Yeah, I mean, we can go back to 2008. I bought that I had just gotten married as well in 2007. We bought that house rental property, and I just started pulling the trigger and a My Lawn and landscape business that I had built since like sixth grade. My dad ended up taking it over me and my wife moved to the coast of West Palm Beach. I started selling real estate and there soon after that I ended up having to tell my landlord that hey here's your 30 day notice I am not going to go to forward next month's rent. Wow. And there ended up being a huge by out for me to get out of that. Lease ended up wrecking my credit that I Literally found out my credit was trashed about two years later while I was on the deployment to Afghanistan, because I was actually trying to purchase a new lawnmower for the lawn business that my dad took over, and they're like you gotta about a 590 credit score because of this that the other, and I am like, holy cow. That's from that lease that I broke. But, you know, it's amazing, how you can do one thing and two years later, you pay the pay, the price of it. So, ended up moving in with my in-laws into a 900 square foot. Else. Here we are for adults. Now, living in one house, plus a small child, which was my wife's younger sister. And let me tell you, I went from a business owner to a real estate licensed agent, which I still have my license to a rental property owner to moving in with my in-laws and that's quite humbling when you go from making great money to no money, and you're paying credit card bills with our credit cards with credit.

Speaker 2

12:20

 Cards. Well, and how old were you at this point?

Speaker 1

12:23

 Just, you know, I was about To turn 24 and my, my wife at the time, I really, really respected, her Grandpa and I respected her mom to her. Mom was actually my real estate broker and her Grandpa all said, her Grandpa. Let me back up a little bit. Her Grandpa actually introduced me to Jim Rohn, not personally, but through cassette tapes. And I think I talked about that. Yeah, podcast. Well, I converted all those things from cassette to CD and would listen to these things driving down the road. And that was That's where I was introduced to personal development and started realizing life's not happening to me. It's happening for me. And another thing my wife's grandfather said to me was joint military, go back to school, you can do this over like it's not, you can you kind of do a reset. So once again, action taker, I am at the recruiter station at the Air Force, they wouldn't take me Air Force would not take a jump through all the Hoops, a lot of their Hoops, but unfortunately not high. And luckily the Air Force, recruiter said, hey go next door, to the militar to the Army. They will pretty much take anybody. So I am coachable. I went next door and join the Army, and I am a basic training like two months later.

Speaker 2

13:37

 I had an okay. So I mean with everything you just Breeze through I mean that's a lot of that's a big. Like you said it was humbling but touch on kind of your mindset at that point in time that when you were struggling as far as yeah. Go ahead.

Speaker 1

13:54

 Ed, you know, just praying for opportunity every night. And I like to Lord, like, oh, I will be a better tither like all these things. But here I am sleeping into like 10 AM in the morning, but I was also working late, right? That was my excuse all, I am working late. But I still could have gotten up early, you know, some of the things that were ingrained in me in the military. Like now, it's like, I pretty much just wake up automatically at 4 AM and either I lay there in bed, feeling guilty, or most of the days of the week. Just get up and get some stuff done or, you know, do a Bible study, or read a book or whatever? Start, you know, taking action. But yeah, I mean, you know, I look back at the person. I was back then, and that's who needed to change. It wasn't the economy. It wasn't the dang real estate market. Everyone wants to play 2008 when we, and we're like, I bet you people. I know people that absolutely freaking crushed it in 2008, right? And enter one of those guys, I will just do it. A shout out right now is name is Michael Jake. His biggest problem is all of his friends have regular jobs, and he doesn't have to work, you know?

Speaker 2

15:04

 Yeah, so he, he can't relate to them on some level. Yeah, gotcha. So, okay. So join the military and then what?

Speaker 1

15:16

 The join the military and the Hustler came back out that I joined a Z1, and I am to let me tell you, my it still was not covering my bills. My E1 salary. So I just had to hustle and Based training. I was pulling fireguard for guys at night. I was like making the bunk beds in the morning, and we're not nor already and you are.

Speaker 2

15:39

 Already an entrepreneur before that, but you were using your hustle. A hustler skills hustling skills in basic training. Ting, whatever.

Speaker 1

15:46

 Graduation came, we got that one day to kind of go and celebrate with family, had like a pocket full of cash, and I was like, okay, I am going to spend some of this.

Speaker 2

15:53

 Now, did you, did you go, you probably didn't have, they probably switched over the boots by then because we had people doing a boot shining, for people.

Speaker 1

16:02

 Know. Yeah. There was no shiny boots in my thank God.

Speaker 2

16:06

 Man. I have got to get your boots shined or something like that. But there were guys that were like all night long, shining boots, you know, making make a lot of.

Speaker 1

16:14

 Money. Wow. Yeah I will tell you and then AIT came, and then we would have dress blue inspection. Actually, it was dressed, it was RAC or greens back then. And I would iron has for these guys on Fridays because they would have to do an inspection to get their weekend pass. And I wasn't going out on weekend passes. I didn't like my wife lived, you know, and the next state over like we weren't seeing each other very often. So I would rack up money doing that and then it's time to move again. And You know, just off the Germany and basically I was stationed there for three years and then was on back-to-back, the plumbing, the schedule and you know made money on deployments. I would literally buy cartons of cigarettes. I have never really I have never.

Speaker 2

17:00

 Told this story on a podcast. Here we go people. This is it. But I would drive off. Fob.

Speaker 1

17:05

 Shank in a government Humvee, on to the Afghan compound and by cartons of cigarettes for 20 bucks literally risk, my stupid.

Speaker 2

17:15

 Life. And then drive back onto our, our fob.

Speaker 1

17:20

 And sell the packs of cigarettes to my buddies for like, $10 a pack. And then one day, I started feeling bad about that stopped. However, it's a probably good thing, but things like that, always making money. And then fast-forward to 2013. This is another, you know, adverse Like A diversity for me is My first wife was like, I am done, I am out of here like you're never you never hear I am out so that kind of crush me hard because recently at right after that, I was pulled out of Afghanistan, the Army sends me to active duty green to Gold. They paid me to go to school. My E5 salary. I went from e 1 E 5 and 4 year or like two years by the fourth year. They're pulling me out, send me to school finally getting the money under control. Yeah, I am back for the listing.

Speaker 2

18:10

 For those unfamiliar. E1 is Private that the lowest ranking member of the military, right? Yeah, he 5 is a sergeant but the lowest Sergeant, right? Yeah. And then but you're moving up the ranks and then green to Gold. So then you're on track to become an officer right?

Speaker 1

18:31

 Right. Exactly 2013, I get, you know, I take my rank off but I keep my E5 status. I am paid. I am literally still active duty getting paid to go to school, which was a Amazing. You know, I had to build these huge packets, and it took me two years in a row to get accepted, but I literally had the opportunity of a lifetime and in the military. Now, I am getting paid to go to college. I buy a rental house right next to the college. It literally touches the, the land of Florida Tech, and I start doing something called house hacking. I didn't know what it was called back then, but I hadn't roommates, basically, and I am making money to live there, and this is my start back up in the real estate. And that's.

Speaker 2

19:12

 Really. What? Catapulted me? Yeah, that's awesome. I think that's, I have never really done house hacking, but and I know Brandon Turner likes to take credit for that. That's what I am but it was going on. He doesn't take credit for the strategy. I don't think a coin that, I mean, yeah, they did. But, I mean, it's one of the best ways if that fits your ear, you know, family circumstances at that time. If you can make that work, I think it's one of the most powerful Always to get to really put rocket fuel on your real estate and wealth building you know career path. So that's awesome. So you're kind of like sounds like your rebound so your rebounding from your divorce at that point. Is that what's going on?

Speaker 1

20:01

 Okay, absolutely. All right.

Speaker 2

20:03

 So what's your mindset at that point?

Speaker 1

20:06

 You know, it was stuff. Like I am now like 24 when I joined 560. I am actually about 27 about turn 28. I am the old guy in college. Yeah, I am surrounded by like 18 19 21 year olds and thank God. I have any gray hairs and that time. But, you know, I just put my head down and did my, I am literally taking like eight or nine classes because I have 21 months to get a four-year degree in a lot of my, none of my I won't name the colleges for the sake of your podcast, but none of my credits transferred from this University of blah, blah, online school, that I have been taking for the last four years. So, take it like nine classes and fix this house up house hacked. It and literally did what's called a VA streamline loan and the bank actually, refinance, me within like, two months of living there lowered, my interest rate, and then gave me 50 or 55,000 cash, and I purchased House down the street and then I put Sweat Equity in that. I and my neighbor who owned a construction company, every night would work on that. Then rented that one out and then started wholesaling houses, you know, because I went to a private school, I had to pay for some of these classes after my cap hit. But, you know, that game introduced me to wholesaling houses and then in that during that time, I met my wife, Emily, the love of my life, and we decided that she's going to come with me to the next Duty station. We got married. And now we have three children.

Speaker 2

21:39

 Together. Nice. I and again, this show is not about me, but so we were both army officers. I also ran a lawn and landscaping company back in the dating, which is still in existence today. It's not, I don't own it, but and then my wife's name is Emily as well. So.

Speaker 1

22:02

 That is wild. So I knew everything except for the Emily, I didn't.

Speaker 2

22:06

 Lifespans Emily. Yeah, so yeah another check we might live.

Speaker 1

22:10

 In the same neighborhood.

Speaker 2

22:12

 That's your name again. No, there's actually is funny. Funny thing, I just resigned permanently from my position with Department of Defense I was working part-time for about eight years, seven years, I guess. But there was another James Bateman there and turns out the crazy part is so Out of this huge organization. There were only two James, Bateman's, and then he comes into my organization. We're in the same organization, like small, you know, group. And then one day, I am walking by, and I, when we realized that somebody says like, oh, how was your birthday yesterday to him? And it was to been my birthday. So yeah. Same birthday. Same name, kind of crazy. There're some stories about that one. Yeah, so hopefully I only want to ask you what your birthday is because that would be too weird.

Speaker 1

23:06

 I will tell you after you stop the recording. All right.

Speaker 2

23:10

 So, okay. So now what year did we end off? Where are we in your story?

Speaker 1

23:17

 Yeah, we're will just fast-forward to jumping out to 2015. When it's time to move the for Carson, got married, very soon after we found out, we're having a baby, and we bought our first house at Fort Carson, Colorado. And I use the equity from that. That third rental property took out a home equity line of credit and bought a Triplex right in the City of.

Speaker 2

23:42

 Colorado Springs. So.

Speaker 1

23:46

 I have hit the ground running, I am wholesaling houses while working like a 13-hour Army day, and I was doing it all by just getting up early. I had to be on base by six to do, pt or physical training and from 4 to 6 as my power our and Really had a huge. Why? And a lot of times when people are trying to figure out there, why and I didn't know what mine was, until I finally got out of the military while I was working. So hard. But my why was I was not going to let damn history repeat itself again on me, like I was not going to have another wife like, you know, take off because I am always gone, always training, always deployed, always away. And, you know, and I loved being in the military but it was hard. It's hard on the Family. And now I have got children and it really hit me when that first baby. My First Son came out, and I was like, okay, I have got about two and a half years. I have put in my packet even though everyone was saying, don't do it. They're not going to approve it. They're not letting army officers out right now. I didn't care, I didn't listen to the naysayers because there's always someone is going to try and tell you to not do something and literally a girl with the same year group, as me got denied and, you know, by the grace of God, they approved mine, or maybe I just sucked as an army officer.

Speaker 2

25:05

 I don't.

Speaker 1

25:06

 Know. And that was my timeline. I had about two years to make it work, and I was searching for answers, kind of like the, the adversity to abundance podcast. And I heard about a guy flip and land buying and selling land overnight, and I am already kind of haphazardly wholesaling houses, but it's hard. Like, you got to go and create rapport with these sellers. Like, you can't just be in and out and get a contract. I heard about land that I am like, why am I not mailing land? And that's what did it for me. And my Second land sale. I created a note and that paid me every month and that was where my Paradigm shifted. And I said I only have to do this about 11 more times to completely be financially free.

Speaker 2

25:49

 That's awesome. So, prior to land, who were you learning from our, you know, how are you doing your ear? Real estate.

Speaker 1

25:55

 Wholesaling ink, Tom Kroll, the original founder of whole selling ink which I have got the honor to be a coach for.

Speaker 2

26:01

 Now. Nice. Okay. And then got into land. You do your own coaching of land as well? Right, is that.

Speaker 1

26:09

 True? Absolutely. Yeah, I teach with whole selling ink at people how to build my own business just like I have got.

Speaker 2

26:14

 That's awesome. So, can you give us kind of like, you don't have to give us numbers, but what is your business look like from kind of portfolio? Or maybe even an income standpoint? We have .

Speaker 1

26:27

 Done a little over three hundred and eighty, five ish, land deals, and we have got currently a little over. 100 notes, every single month, paying us for the land that we sold. And the first, the first note I ever did was $400 a month. So, you know, we can count on that some of those are five-year loans. Some of them are 30-year loans which I really prefer because if you look at the way the bank set these amortization schedules up the first five to seven years like.

Speaker 2

26:57

 Controlling interest. Yeah. So it's.

Speaker 1

26:59

 A no-brainer, I mean it's I wouldn't shouldn't say a no-brainer Albert Einstein said that, you know, those that understand. And interest earn it and those that don't pay it. So, I am doing my best to understand compounding interest because the banks are usually the prettiest buildings in every city and every state in this country. Yeah, then they have got something figured out.

Speaker 2

27:19

 So did you ever think you would be where you are now?

Speaker 1

27:24

 No, absolutely not. Well, let me that's totally incorrect. What I just said, I knew I would be somebody one day and doing things. I think I would have these successful all these successful businesses? Yeah. No, I couldn't quite see it. I knew I was going to do something one day and be very successful, but yeah, it's amazing. What, what you can accomplish in just a few short years?

Speaker 2

27:50

 Yeah, awesome. So is there anything else you want to add? As far I am going to fire off some questions but Any other kind of takeaways from the adversity that you went through that you want to touch on?

Speaker 1

28:04

 Yeah I mean it just taken straight from the Bible this too shall pass you know there're Peaks and there're valleys and if it wasn't for The Valleys, there would be Pink's if it wasn't for the Peaks or would be Valley. So we have to go through that time and you know it's hard to say or is hard to like really appreciate your situation when you're going through it. But you just got it in. Enjoy the ride and sometimes it's going to be raining on you. And sometimes it's going to be, you know, Sonny roses. And I will tell you, it's just like, you just gotta just keep pushing forward and just, just take the action, really? I mean, we got the, we got libraries that we can go into for free and learn this stuff. We have got YouTube. My time, I teach this stuff every day on my YouTube channel. It's free. But here's the one like recommendations, just got to stop and take the action. Get out of learn mode. Start taking the action with everything you learned.

Speaker 2

29:01

 That's really good. That's, that's all really good. Yeah, I mean, it's really one of the key points of this show is that you're not the goal shouldn't be to avoid adversity or challenges or trials, right? I mean it's of course nobody seeks them out on purpose, right? I am not looking for more trouble, but that shouldn't be the ultimate goal because it's going to happen. So what do you do with it? When it does. All right, I am going to fire off some questions, and we will see where it goes. What do people misunderstand about.

Speaker 1

29:35

 You? I don't know if they don't understand. I should, you know, I guess why, my butt's always burning like, why? Like, you know, and I love the what Art Williams said, you know, since I don't know why my butt's always burning like our I am like, are you gotta do something? You gotta go for it. You gotta try something. I mean, if you haven't heard Art Williams, has just do it speech. Like, I love that, that speech. Okay, so maybe that's it. Like, you don't understand why my butt's always.

Speaker 2

30:05

 Burning. All right? Get. What would you say was one of your biggest failures? And what did you learn from that?

Speaker 1

30:15

 I would say my biggest failure was just probably quitting and doing what I because I was on this something it was just going to take longer than what I am playing with the with a real estate in the beginning in 2007.

Speaker 2

30:30

 Okay, got it and you were doing you. That's when you got your license and you that was in West Palm.

Speaker 1

30:36

 Beach. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I was already kind of start. I mean, about, First rental in 2007, I should have just kept buying.

Speaker 2

30:43

 Then character buying kept by her. I was just in West Palm Beach about a month ago but and I imagine they got hit really hard in 2008. I would guess. But if you were given 10 million dollars tomorrow, what would you do with?

Speaker 1

30:58

 It? Well.

Speaker 2

31:03

 I am not saying you don't have 10 million dollars. I am just saying, if somebody wrote you a check for ten million dollars, what would you do with it?

Speaker 1

31:09

 I mean, I have got a land deal right now. We're looking actually two of them. I could probably buy both of them actually. So I am actually raising money for it. So I would have to raise the money would just have the money.

Speaker 2

31:19

 Okay, nice. Yeah. You mentioned a little bit about that before we hit record. If you had to eat one meal for the rest of your life, what would it be?

Speaker 1

31:30

 Oh, man, definitely spaghetti.

Speaker 2

31:33

 Duh, stupid question. All right. How about, what is a challenge you're facing in your business right now. You mentioned raising capital is something you're focused on.

Speaker 1

31:46

 Just getting, you know, a challenge right now is I mention we head our runner bookkeepers and the fractional CFO we had.

Speaker 2

31:55

 Live I don't know what is that? I am sorry to cut you off. I am just what is a fractional CFO.

Speaker 1

32:01

 Basically, it's a CFO that works for other companies, not just yours and the bookkeeping team that was managing all the books for my company's the land and houses, and the coaching we just got too far ahead of them. They couldn't keep up with our transactions. So we just hired, an in-house bookkeeper that she's in our culture. She's in our family. So that's my number. Challenge. And, you know, I am already seeing the light, you know, at the end of the tunnel so.

Speaker 2

32:31

 Well, it is May 3rd right now, and so I can I think a lot of people can probably feel your pain right now as fast, small business owners and you know we just kind of got through. I don't know if there even is a Taxis. I feel like tax season is year-round now but it is yeah I struggle with that as well with my businesses, it's definitely a pain point.

Speaker 1

32:56

 Yeah, I just hired an accountant with an MBA, so I have got.

Speaker 2

33:01

 High hopes awesome. No, pressure your new team member. I hope he's.

Speaker 1

33:06

 Listening. Excuse me, my neighbor. By the way, I need to know a little higher. Okay.

Speaker 2

33:12

 Nice. What is one piece of advice? You'd give to someone starting out in real estate will say.

Speaker 1

33:19

 Yes, you know, you have listened to enough podcast. You have read enough books to start taking action and Go out and make some mistakes and all make mistakes. Like they're going to happen. You already said it Jamie. Just go out there and start pulling the trigger, our mistakes or sometimes. Turn into our, you know, our best. You know, 100 wins. Yeah. A huge way. Solutely.

Speaker 2

33:43

 All right. What's a book? You would recommend.

Speaker 1

33:46

 The wealthy Gardener? I love the.

Speaker 2

33:48

 Book, that's a great one, that's really good. Yeah, that's a recommended that as well on podcast. It's like a fiction. / nonfiction book and that guy man. He just set his mind to it and just crushed.

Speaker 1

34:04

 It. Yeah that's a great. I really prefer that one on Audible. Okay. Such a story and the way he tells it, I think I even mentioned on The Good Deeds podcast. I just really liked that.

Speaker 2

34:15

 Book. Yeah, it's a good one. Speaking of podcasts, what other podcasts you have your own podcast, right?

Speaker 1

34:23

 The whole song podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 2

34:24

 And then what other podcasts do you listen to any others?

Speaker 1

34:27

 I don't really. I don't listen to podcasts and you ever. I used to literally consume them when I was searching for answers, how to build a business that would get me out of the military.

Speaker 2

34:38

 Yeah. Got it. How do you like to serve others?

Speaker 1

34:44

 You know, one just well let me back up. I was walking out of the gym yesterday and I want to do a start doing a fundraiser for Feed, the Children for my County. That's something I just it just popped in my head. I think a lot of these things, you know, our God inspired like when we get to these just random ideas. Number two, I teach people how to, you know, build businesses that serve them and then three, you know, filling just pouring into my team and my.

Speaker 2

35:13

 Organization. I mean one.

Speaker 1

35:15

 Of our team members that I hired in April 2017 she literally just paid off all of her debt. So.

Speaker 2

35:23

 Those are a couple different ways. Yeah. And I am glad I asked that when those are, those are some good ones and you said walking out of the gym just as, as we start to wrap up here, I just think that's, you know, creating that space mentally. I mean, you went to the gym, I would guess for a physical workout, right? But I know, So for me, A lot of times I have really what I think are good ideas when I am not in the weeds, and I am going for a walk, I am doing a workout or something, you know, we're creating I have created that space the mental space to have those, those good ideas. So that's really good and knowing you. I think you're going to actually do that.

Speaker 1

36:05

 Well, now that I said it, I mean. Yeah, right. So and but the first thing and I will tell you within that same seed That came to my mind. Guess what came right after? That was fear, fear of failure and fear of rejection. Well, what if it doesn't go well? Like what are people going to think of me? What if, no one shows up to the event? So we all get stopped by fear of failure and fear of rejection. And I know exactly why we have these stimulating thoughts and these ideas. And while we're usually getting some type of physical activity or all, you know what, I am just going to make that call, like, whatever. I don't know why. Why I have been shredding? It is because when we, when we get up, we build up, something called endorphins, it is literally the antidote to cortisol. Cortisol is fear, it's the pause button. It's what kept us alive. You know, when we were running from the saber-toothed tigers, but the antler the antidote I should say is the endorphins. So that's why people need to get out and take those walks or take those jogs or, or just do push-ups and air squats and Jumpin Jacks right before they go into that, tough meeting, or they got to make that phone call that they're afraid to do because we're afraid that person on the other line is going to.

Speaker 2

37:21

 Reject this. Yeah, that's awesome. But I thought you'd reached abundance and then you don't. Now, you don't have anymore.

Speaker 1

37:27

 Fear. It's a daily. It's like, like Jim Rohn says, you got to take a shower at least once a day. So I mean, I am in Florida, right now. I pretty much have to take twice a day, but the motivation wears off, it's a daily battle. It's just constant. Yeah.

Speaker 2

37:46

 I love it. I think our listeners are really going to be able to your very relatable. So I think this will be really good. Two more questions. What's with the Rhino behind you?

Speaker 1

37:57

 I am so glad you asked. So, the Rhino tribe whole selling ink, you know, I got it from a great book called rhinoceros success, by Scott Alexander. That's my number two books. That should be the number one, but always have to be charging, rhinoceros have three-inch sticks. And they're taking Torpedoes on daily or always charging. You don't want to be like the fat cow just sitting there to in the grass. You want to be charging. So what does that mean? Have your running shoes? Ready? Next to your bed as soon as you get up hit the ground.

Speaker 2

38:27

 Running love it. I my one nephew is a big fan of rhinos. So he's gonna have to listen to this one. All right. Last but not least. Where can our listeners find you online if they want to reach out to you?

Speaker 1

38:40

 Yeah, thanks for asking. I mentioned the YouTube channel. I just started YouTube channel very recently and I put a video out five days a week. I just asked people go and smash that red button, subscribe to that channel. Even if you don't like, the content is still hit that red button.

Speaker 2

38:56

 Yeah. When I was, I did pause my YouTube videos because it is, you know, it's a lot of work. But it is my one nephew that's that was a couple years ago, kept saying, smash that like button. So, yeah, but now it's it means a lot too though. It's not. I mean, like, Said, like we both said, it's a, it is a lot of work, putting out content, especially doing it five times a week. Of course, there's hopefully something in it for you monetarily, but one.

Speaker 1

39:24

 Day, what day.

Speaker 2

39:27

 But it does go a long way. If, if people, if the listeners will go out and, you know, like your videos, Brent's videos, and, as well as your podcast and same with this show, it really does go a long way, if we can get some keep on, Building on the momentum we have created here with shares and likes and reviews. It's not just me saying that it really does help so bright. I really want to thank you for coming on. Do you have any parting words for us?

Speaker 1

39:58

 Yeah. I mean, I am going to just ride the train you just built their, you know, guys, if you have not subscribed from adversity to abundance podcast, do so and do a five star review and share this podcast. So some of them needs to get their butt in gear, and they Cancel Netflix show, show. Show some love to Jamie. Like, this is a lot of work. So thanks for doing all this. Jamie.

Speaker 2

40:21

 That's awesome, bro. And I really appreciate it and thanks a lot for coming on and to our listeners out there. Thanks for spending your most valuable resource with us, your time, take care.

Speaker 1

40:35

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