We read about men and women of time past with the "never give up no matter what personality" in history books, and it's always a pleasure to see present-day, real-life adversity fighters.Bryce Robertson is someone whose ability to break out from ad...
We read about men and women of time past with the "never give up no matter what personality" in history books, and it's always a pleasure to see present-day, real-life adversity fighters.
Bryce Robertson is someone whose ability to break out from adversity, and whose affinity for hard work are attractive forces around him.
"I like to look at life in 5 core areas; wealth, health, relationships, spirituality, and having fun."
Originally from Australia, Bryce is a high school dropout who is currently a mobile home park investor. He helps investors create financial freedom and expand their wealth through resistant investment and recession.
He says, "There are two things that motivate us: there is the magnetic attraction that pulls us toward what we want, and there is a repelling of moving away from things we don't want."
This episode will inspire you to always "dare to dream and take risks."
Tune in as Jamie and Bryce discuss:
· How Bryce struggled through adversities and met his wife, who massively influenced his investing and business decisions;
· Taking risks and ignoring persuasions to do otherwise;
· The challenges involved in closing his first real estate deal;
· "We gained financial freedom in 2 and half years and retired ourselves";
· The transition from being a dropout who got bored from reading to being a best-selling author;
· The importance of money: The 18-year-old Bryce's view of money vs now.
· Why he'd like to have tea with Bob Marley;
· The importance of recession-resistant investing like mobile-home parks;
· Bryce's current engagements, workshops, and programs to look forward to, and;
· Taking control of freedom in all areas of your life
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Speaker 1
00:00
This episode is sponsored by the Integrity income fund, which is managed by yours, truly and my team at Labrador lending, the Integrity income fund is for accredited investors. It aims to pay 8% preferred return and an 8.5% preferred return for early investors. It aims to pay out monthly distributions. There's a 25 thousand dollar minimum and only a one-year lockup. If you are an accredited investor and you're looking to get away from Wall Street, letting looking to beat inflation and looking for an asset class that is backed by hard physical real estate. Then look no further than the Integrity income fund. Check it out at Labrador Lending.com. Hey everyone, Jamie Bateman here. I had the chance today to chat with Bryce. Robertson, a mobile home park. Investor, you're going to love this episode. He's from Australia. Originally, he dropped out of high school, didn't have a strong capacity for reading. He talks about later in the episode, something that he hadn't talked about publicly very much and didn't have any knowledge of business or entrepreneurship or Real estate spent a lot of years doing, construction and underground Gold. Mine work and some really hard labor move to the US after traveling the world. And we talked a lot about his first deal which was a fantastic thing to focus on because he had a negative net worth at the time. He had two thousand dollars to his name, and he had uncie Isn't credit and within two and a half years, he overcame all those obstacles to create Financial Freedom. The fact is his mentor. One of his mentors was telling him walk away from this deal. You shouldn't do this deal. It's a bad idea. We talked about how Bryce hung up on him and said, no, I am moving forward. So I love his positive energy and his ability to overcome adversity, and we also Focus a lot on. We certainly talked a lot about financial Fitness and Financial Freedom, but he also is a freedom hacker in a lot of ways, Health, spirituality relationships, and like I said, Finance as well, but he's just a positive guy. I got to know him personally a couple weeks ago, and I know that you're going to enjoy getting to know him as well.
Speaker 2
02:49
Inspiring stories of real people. Overcoming incredible odds to live life to the fullest. We are all guaranteed to face. Hardships, how will we handle the adversity? Join us to be moved by every day, people who have turned poverty into prosperity and weakness into wealth Be Inspired as these relatable Heroes, get vulnerable and former counterintelligence investigator Jamie Bateman puts his interviewing skills to the test, restore your faith in humanity as you experience. True sin. Ella's stories of average people turning surreal struggle and deep despair into booming, businesses and financial Fortune. Take ownership of the life, you are destined to live and turn your adversity into abundance.
Speaker 1
03:38
Welcome everybody to another episode of the form adversity, to abundance podcast. I am your host Jamie Bateman. And I am thrilled today to have a new friend of mine on the show with us, bro. Ice, Robertson Bryce. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2
03:52
Almost him. Jamie. Thanks for having me here, brother.
Speaker 1
03:54
Absolutely. So, for the listeners out there for a little bit of context Bryce and I met in person. Almost, I guess, two weeks ago, probably was two weeks ago tonight. I think maybe at dinner, which was in Scottsdale at a mastermind event, which was fantastic. And I know your story is, is very interesting, I am excited. To learn more than I already know. But for the listeners out there Bryce, who are you? And what are you up to today?
Speaker 2
04:27
Yeah, so I am Bryce. Robertson from cultivate Collective where we help passive investors create Financial Freedom, and expand their wealth, through recession resistant Investments because we believe an investment should perform well during good Economic Times. And even better during down Economic Times and our main bread and butter is mobile home parks. And so, Of storage. We have our own in-house property management company asset management company. We have got our own in-house construction Crews, and we do a lot of heavy value-add Investments where we buy close to fifty percent occupied. Move our construction crews in to do all three models, get the place up to 100% occupied in a really short period of time, and then we kind of move on to the next one. That's our main bread and butter, that's what we mainly do. But in recent years, we have also branched out and built relationships. Ships with top operators in other asset classes because we only specialize in mobile home parks and Self Storage. We're not going to claim to specialize in other things. So we team up with the best of the best in other asset classes. So, we can bring those types of Investments to the table. And those kinds of Investments would be along the lines of automatic teller machines. Bitcoin teller machines. Bitcoin mining will also we have been involved in multifamily space, but we're a little wary of that right now. Due to Recession resistance, you know, refrigerated storage car washes, and we're even working on the buying the scenes on some cannabis and also some mushroom Investments as well.
Speaker 1
06:03
Nice. Well, yeah, that's quite a lot. You have got going on there. It sounds like you do while you are exposed to an array of different asset classes. It sounds like you're very intentional and strategic about how you go about implementing. You know, that investment, your investment strategy. So I love to dive into that. But before we get into more detail on that, let us hop back to your backstory and touch on, you know, potentially some more personal things here as far as some adversity, you have been through in your, in your past, and then we will walk back through to present day. So, obviously, from adversity, to abundance, just the qualifier before we really Dive In. I don't pretend like you know, Bryce's adversity is fully over now and now you're living in, you know, 100 percent abundance, you know if that's not the intent of the show, but I think if we can dive in a little bit on some personal adversity that you face whether in your little personal life or more, more business-related, we can pull out some lessons learned for the listeners and for ourselves and, you know, help us when we inevitably do face, Hardship again and go from there. So where would you like to take us in your journey?
Speaker 2
07:26
Will? So first off, I want to just kind of add a little bit of color to what you just said that. So I think that's super important. One of my mentors Dr. John demartini ingrained in me. The concept and philosophy that we live in a world of fifty percent. Positive and 50% — that's down to the most micro atom to the most macro galaxies in The universe is negative and positive forces pulling against and pushing against each other and that's how Universe works right now some of us could say well, good and bad, but that's how it's bringing our own personality and experiences into it. I am just talking about positive and negative another way too actually. Look at that is this is a realistic I think and healthy way to look at the world. To look at relationships to look at business, to look at everything really is that we can expect If everything is fifty percent, positive and 50% — we can expect 50% reward, and 50% challenge, okay? And those who actually doesn't mean the challenges have to be bad, but it means that our challenges are in place to help us grow in those areas. Because if we have that challenge, we haven't learnt that lesson yet and that's why it keeps showing up in our life. So I just want to set that context there. Now, let us now let us wind back the clock man and go back to, you know, Born and raised in Australia and had an awesome operating and I got to the near the end of high school and I realized there is no freakin chance. I am going to University and doing rest of the schooling system, but I was bored out of my brains. I wanted to go out there. I wanted to get my hands dirty. I want to earn as much money as I could problem. Was I had no influence as like business influence or entrepreneurial influences. So I didn't even really know that world existed yet. So, I went out there and got what I thought that was the highest paying job and that was in the blue colored field, so I am gonna Apprentice ship is still fabricator. Well duck, I did a five-year apprenticeship in about three years because I was super eager to get it done. And then I went out and worked in the underground gold mines in Western Australia where I was working. 12 14 hours a day, 7 days a week eight weeks on one week off. And I kind of did that bouncing between Western Australia and the Northern Territory for about two years saving up. A pretty decent chunk of cash, was in my early 20s. I had a vision that I wanted to travel the world for six years and I did. And this is how I did it first. I went over to London, and I set up my base camp. That's where I worked and aren't my money, and then I would travel from there. So I would work, you know, like 10 12 hours a day five to seven days a week. Maybe, for three, four months at a time. Then I will go travel in Europe until my money ran out and I Come back or earn more money. They're traveling through Africa and I did the whole UK Europe and Africa cycle for three years. And after that, I wanted to change the scenery. So, I went from 12 million people over in London to a really small ski Village in the mountains of British Columbia called Fernie, which had about 5,000 people in Canada. And I really just went there for a ski season because I wanted to experience snowboarding and I loved it. It so much. And that also happened to be coal mines there as well. So I ended up starting to dig out the coal mines and I stayed there for two years and when I wasn't working out in coal mines or is firefighting downhill, mountain biking snowboarding or somehow enjoying outdoor mountainous activities. So this time during that two years, I really didn't travel that much. So I wasn't really spending that much money. So it enabled me to set save up, even bigger chunk of cash this time. So I could take a nap. 18 months, surfing scuba diving trip down in Central and South America. And in the last six months of that surfing scuba diving trip. I met my wife, who's a native from California. So, naturally I ended up here in the states which is about 12 13 years ago. Now, when I ended up here in the states, my wife and I made an agreement with each other, we wanted to recreate this Freedom lifestyle, except we wanted to do it one. So our money doesn't run out. Well, we're traveling. And so, and number two, so money is actually growing while we're traveling and having fun and living this Freedom lifestyle. Now, remember, we didn't have any idea of any, how, any of this worked? So, we went out there, and we started looking in the three main ways, we could make big bucks. And that's owning a business, the stock market. And real estate, I think the stock market category, cryptocurrencies, pretty similar to that just wasn't really a thing back then. So in those areas, we started doing Out seven different side hustles. We were just trying to do all these different things and see what sticks but then after a while I was looking, and I was realizing, and I am having mediocre success. I am spread thin. I am spinning plates and my energy is just all over the place, so I realized I had to stop what I was doing. Take a step back and then decide to laser focus on one thing and put all my eggs in all my energy in that basket. And that's what I did. What was I going to do? Well, I knew it was going to be realistic because at the time I had a 17-year background in construction management, what was I going to do in real estate? Because it's so many ways to make money. So I walked it all the different ways to make money in real estate over and over. And over again, mobile home parks kept popping off the page, massive supply, and demand. In favor of mobile, home park owners, getting to fulfill, what I believe is the largest real estate problem in America. And that's the need for affordable. Housing awesome tax benefits, High cash flows, very little competition. I was all in. So I decided to be all in and three months after making that decision, I put my first mobile home park on the contract but I wasn't in the position to get that deal closed by myself because the time had a negative net worth only had two thousand dollars in the bank and I had done season credit because I hadn't been in the state's long enough. So.
Speaker 1
13:51
That we might jump in if you don't mind. This is a this is going to be the easiest interview I have ever done because you're really, really good at telling your story. So I kind of didn't want to cut you off but man. So clearly there's so many things I could pull out clearly, you're not afraid of hard works. You're clearly not afraid of you know, living life. I don't want to say to the extreme but enjoying life through experiences and I guess being intentional about You know, you said you wanted to travel for six years. Let me ask why six years, why would you want to travel the world for six years?
Speaker 2
14:28
I don't know how I came up with that number, but I kind of just like, did a little bit of mapping in my head of how long it would take me to hit most of the countries that I wanted to hit, and I suppose it just allowed myself like six years. Do.
Speaker 1
14:42
That like properly, gotcha. Now it just sits pretty cool. How you have got, you know, your work hard, but you have got an intention, it seems like behind the process. That makes sense. So you're saving up for a specific goal. And I like that. Other, you know, it's very easy for kind of the average person to get a job and, you know, work their job and not necessarily think through it or have an experience that they're aiming for. So I love the, I love the approach. It's obviously very it's different for sure than your average at least American 925, you know approach. But so sorry. I just there's so many questions. I have, we will have to bring you back for a second show if you can do. Do that. But so mobile home parks. I mean, I love it. It's when I was kind of I have been in the single-family space for a while and then as I started to look into more passive investing myself, it seemed like three asset classes, kind of kept coming to the surface when I was doing my research years ago. And that was senior living facilities, just based on demographics for the most part. And then of course, besides the larger multifamily cell storage was the other one and mobile home parks and so self storage and mobile home, park seem to be the most recession resistant, but then on self-storage side, they're always adding more. So there's a supply issue there whereas mobile home parks. I know, it's not that easy to add more. We're getting ahead of ourselves though. So tell us about that. So you were two thousand dollars. In the bank negative, net worth and really didn't know what you were doing at that point, is that fair to say.
Speaker 2
16:31
Yeah, on season credit and also in addition to that, and I had on season credit because it hadn't been in the state's long enough to actually build credit, right? And then the other thing is, is, I am in a brand-new country. I don't know anybody, right? Right. So, but I leaned down to family and friends and, and I will tell you what in originally, because I knew I had an amazing deal. It was a 40 space mobile. Part with one single family home, like a three-bedroom two-bath single-family home and also a, like a storage / office, /, laundry building as well. So and the whole thing we ended up putting on a contract for things like 570,000, which represented a 12 cap purchase in California back in 2015. And so that was just like a killer deal. I knew It was an amazing deal. I had no idea how I was going to get this deal done. I just new what the next steps were? So the once I had it under contract, well actually let us actually peel it back so to get it under contract. I knew it was an amazing deal at the time I had actually spent thirty thousand dollars. I might have even been 35,000 dollars on credit cards to pay for a mentor that was actually going to help drive me through the General processes, right? So I didn't have a contract yet, so I wanted him to one quickly look at Deland. Number to give me the contract. I need to put on a contract is all called him up. No answer. I kept calling. No answer. I am like, man, if I don't get contact with him very soon, is deals. Not happening. Because like, it's gonna, it's gonna sell, like, hotcakes, this price. So, I knew I had to move quickly, so I called the organization said, hey Memento is not like, call me back. What's deal of trying to get this deal done? So he Finally called me back, and he says, all right, tell me about the deal kiddo. And so I told him about the deal. It's a 12 cup in California, 40 space Park. LA of La is a cool deal. Sounds good checks out. He's like okay, what do you need help with? And I said, well, I am a little bit of a situation. I have a negative. Net worth $2000 bangun season credit and I have no contract. He's like, run that by me. Again, that sort of negative, net worth $2000 unceasing credit, and this is what he said. He said, yeah. Dreamin kiddo. You never go to get it done. Just come back down to the club and do a little single family deal, like everybody else. Your way out of your league. So what do you think I did? I took the phone and I just hung up, man, that was not the energy I was looking for. That was the answer. I was looking for. I can no longer rely on that, dude. So, I went and actually made another phone call to somebody who has had success in the mobile home park. Space of called him up and told him. Hey here's the deal, here're the stats. He's like what a 12 tap in California, why? Do you not have that under contract? I said, well, because I don't have a contract. He's like, brewed. I am gonna email you one right now. Put that thing on a contract, so foam, but the contract, put it on the contract, we were sweet. Next thing, I need to do was perform some due diligence on it, to make sure that we were actually buying what we thought we were buying and to evaluate all the risks. So, cool, go through that piece. And then the next piece is like, oh, we need money. We need to get this deal done, and we need financing and I currently don't qualify for financing. I think because I have got a season credit. So we leaned out a family and friends and I thought I have got a cracking deal. This is going to be a piece of cake. Everybody wants in on a good deal. For me is, I didn't realize at the time is like I have no experience. All of a sudden on this real estate investor. People don't know me as a real estate investor. I haven't prepared anybody for it and I had a really bad, a really cold shower, like really. I had not many responses at all. Now, finally, We actually did have some family and friends join, but it was really because of my wife because of a relationships that my wife had built over the years and their trust in my wife's decision on me was really why these people invested in the first place. And so then also got a little bit creative and there were the sellers, had a someone who had like a financing note, tied to the pathos. Very small. And I just reached out to the sellers and I said, hey does that person like being involved in the deal and said yeah, they have been involved in the deal for 10 years, and they love it. Why would it be cool if I called him the cells, like why you want to call him? I said, well I just want to see if they're interested in staying in the deal. Maybe for a larger portion, so we called him up and sure thing guy was like, super love being in the deal for last 10 years, he had more money at the time he wanted to place into investment, so he gave us some self-financing. I am not Our finance he gave us some third-party financing through retirement accounts so that we get the deal done. So three months after putting it on a contract you solve all these problems, and then we got the deal.
Speaker 1
21:38
Done. That is awesome. It's a lot of moving Parts there and I love the fact that you didn't give up and you obviously knew it was a good deal or else because you know could have gone poorly if you had is you didn't if it wasn't a good deal. But so this guy offered you So he offered you creative financing or that was already in place but you see you have got your debt side there and then to the funds that you raised through your wife's contacts were the equity portion. But yeah I think.
Speaker 2
22:08
We needed about like 170 180 Grands to basically pay for the down payment, of the loan and the closing.
Speaker 1
22:15
Costs. Got it, okay? So how much of your own personal money? Did you have into this deal?
Speaker 2
22:21
So started off with two grand but then as we were progressing for the due diligence, Agents and inspections period. I was earning more money and by the time it was said, and done and closed, I ended up putting 15 grand into that deal.
Speaker 1
22:34
Got it. So that's a lot of I mean that just that deal itself highlights a lot of adversity, I think that you overcame. I am sure you have had other periods of adversity, personal adversity and things. But what would you say kind of stands out with regard to, you know, some of the negative or I guess more mental challenges, Maybe? When you were going through that, that first deal. I am duded. It was just.
Speaker 2
23:00
Like there was so many reasons why that deal seemed like it wasn't going to work. You like my mentors? Like yeah, it's not happening dude, you're not doing this deal. It's too big. That would have taken a lot of people out, you know, you pay somebody that much money for mentoring, a lot of people would have listened to that. There was just no room in my way of thinking for that kind of mentality. But then, you know, going through trying to get the financing piece like we had, No idea how we're going to do that. Haven't all of these challenges with the capital raising, getting to a point where it looks like? We're not even going to raise the capital for this deal, and then we get near closing and interesting thing is as sellers. The reason they were selling is that they were an intimate couple who had a child together. I don't believe they were married, but she was over him. She didn't want anything to do with them anymore, and that was the last thing that they actually had together, that kind of tied them together.
Speaker 1
23:55
Seven weather? Yeah, so good. No worse.
Speaker 2
24:03
One second.
Speaker 1
24:03
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2
24:04
170 lat. So. So one of the other challenges that we had was that the sellers were actually going through a separation. See, the sellers were an intimate couple, they had some children together. I don't think that were married but this was literally the last thing that was keeping them together. Once this tie was split with this mobile home park. There was no reason for him to have to talk to her, and she didn't want to be with him anymore, right? He still wanted something so because of that, right at the last minute, he started to get a little crazy in the way he was communicating, and then he got so aggressive. He got to the point where he said, hey screw you guys, we're not closing on this deal. Forced me if you can, I am going to Mexico now? Let me also set the context on this because before this, in the beginning, before we even put it on the contract, he literally would not put it under contract, unless I signed it just glows. ER, saying that, I do not work for the IRS, nor do I work for the FBI. So, that's, that's an interesting thing to come into. Due diligence on that. Obviously gave his two data points that we had to look into, but he literally, he was so paranoid that. He wouldn't like even put a deal on the contract until I stated in writing that I wasn't part of the FBI or the CIA or the IRS. So expect this was a cure. And so, he's like, all right, we're going to Mexico. I am out, it's done. You're not doing the deal. It's not happening. Catch Me. If You Can literally he was like, Catch Me If You Can and then so then the title company actually called him up and the title company said well hey you can do that. We can't force you to do anything but let us just like have you talked to our legal department? Before you actually go to Mexico. Okay? And because there's some pretty big consequences if you, if you go down to Mexico, and so he talked to Legal apartment and then like literally the next day we closed because he realized he was In a lot of trouble. And here, he didn't want to be in trouble. So yeah. So we ended up buying that deal done.
Speaker 1
26:07
That is wild here we house we own our primary residence. We bought from a couple who were splitting up and it got, it got pretty dicey, and it did delay. The closing quite a bit with, you know, a lot of, a lot of personal issues there that kind of came to fruition. So I can only imagine on a larger scale, you're buying a mobile home park and this guy's trying to flee, the country that is wild. So, what was going through your head? I mean, we're youwere, the people around you, your wife. I mean, were people saying you need to stop besides your Mentor, where others trying to dissuade you from? Moving forward.
Speaker 2
26:43
Wife is definitely of the same mindset. She's like, yeah, we're getting this deal done. We're going to like, we're gonna do it. How, what do we have to do to get this deal done? Obviously within our values and morals but like, sure what we really want to get the deal done, probably most other people would just like this dude's crazy. Like, I don't know if we really I would much support anywhere else. You know it was just like it was just self-determination man Garland. Really what? What drove me. And that's an interesting theory for it was my next question. Exactly. Yep. Because there's kind of two things that motivate us. There's like the magnetic attraction to something that we want pulls us towards what we want. And then as the repelling of moving away from something we didn't want and I had to set a context for 17 years that I worked in the construction industry. I was dissatisfied I was unhealthy, I didn't enjoy it. I was overworked, it was burnt out. I literally reached a point. I don't even, like, to use this h word because it's don't think it's good to put out there, but I hated like working and I hated that job, and I really needed to just get away from that real estate, was this thing that I would seen success stories from other people and I had a glimmering hope of possibility that I could live a different life. And, so I was willing to make that happen, and I was willing to put in the work and do what I had to do to make and solve all the problems to make that happen. So the thing that really, really drove me in this drove me all the way up until Financial Freedom because after we closed on that Park, two and a half years later it for the next two and a half years. We rinsed and repeated, this syndication model raising capital for mobile home parks, and doing more deals and then, two and a half years later became financially free retired ourselves, never had to work again work because we choose to not because we have to, but the motivating factor that Drove me to that point was to really get away from the career that I have felt like I just dug myself into a hole and until I came across real estate investing. I literally thought that if I am going to go out and change in oil and create an alternative, it's going to take me, another 17 years to get to that point in that career. And that is so not the case that was my negative mindset working for me and my lack of awareness and Consciousness, I was really moving away. Away from the flame that was burning my but which was which is a job. I really just I was miserable did like oh yeah honestly like.
Speaker 1
29:09
Miserable. Now that's and that's interesting because I don't know as you were talking through the element that's pulling you forward and the element that's pushing you away is it was thinking of a, your positive and negative energy that you talked about, in the beginning, it's essentially a great example of that positive and negative both coexist. Thing, if you will. So yeah, that's awesome. So now you have done been doing this for several years up to this point?
Speaker 2
29:39
Yeah, I mean the first day it was back in 2015 so you know, we're seven years deep.
Speaker 1
29:45
Yeah, that's awesome. And you're still, you're actively syndicating now and looking for deals and what is a, what is a week look like for you with regard to real estate, investing.
Speaker 2
29:57
Every week different, you know, I haven't flow. I Live by the freedom Trinity of financial time and location Freedom. So I am in the position where I literally can do what I want from where I want. When I went through. I want. Now I just because I am in that position doesn't mean that I am like sitting in the Bahamas sipping on cocktails like all day long as that gets boring. You know, I have done that, I travel a lot, I have traveled all over the world, I still do all of that but I like a balance of like growing entrepreneurially growing business. Helping a lot of people and then also having time for me And having the downtime and traveling, and all that. So, I am kind of like Evan flow between business growth and not. So right now, I am kind of winding down. I have been in massive business growth mode for the last, like, play six months. I have done a lot of deals this year, I think we're just about to wrap up 12, mobile home, park purchases, we have got five under contract right now, and we have really been Movin, and Shakin. We have been doing a whole bunch of other deals. We have got a Bitcoin, mining fund coming. Out in like two weeks for Bitcoin teller machines. Come on out about four weeks after that, there's a handful of other deals will probably do before Year's End. So there is no like typical week for me. My wife is just kind of like all over the place and I put my energy. Randy too recently. It's been into rebranding, growing the business. Putting a lot of automated systems in place, and I am just kind of like winding down a little bit here, too is to go to the Year's End. So I can just like, Out and kind of, you know, get a little bit more balanced, which is a challenge that I actually have Jamie. It's like it's interesting to try and find where that perfect balance is. Because people say look, if you look at life and I like to look at life in five core areas wealth, Health, relationships, spirituality and having fun. And it's my belief that if we have a good balance in growth and all of those five areas that were generally going to be pretty. Build. It's usually when we're out of balance of those areas that we find that we're unfulfilled and you know, for example, someone who's like super awesome that going to the gym, but then they have got no money and no relationships, and they're not spiritually grounded, and they're not really having that much fun. Is that really quality of life? No, it's not. And there is no one-size-fits-all answer for any of us because we're all different. And so, I have been going for the process, one of the challenges I have been dealing with lately, has been Finding that sweet spot, you know, because and I have been finding if I go more than three months of like, massive growth as an entrepreneur, I start to like want to get some more time off. And if I have time off for like three, four months at a time, I am like itching for like entrepreneurial growth. So something, I don't know if there's perfect answer to that. I think if someone says hey man, I am perfectly balanced, I think maybe temporarily. We experienced that, but it's very short-lived and then, yeah, you know, we have got work to do to kind of put it back in Balance.
Speaker 1
33:03
Absolutely. And I can entirely relate to that. It's an if I might for my own business. When we met two weeks ago, in Scottsdale, I should have been for my business short term, I should have been at a note conference in California and but what was actually much better for me personally and for my family and my health was going to The Mastermind event that I went to because I was getting a little bit too, you know, into Weeds on my own business growth and just it's unhealthy after a bit of time, but I am with you to the Other Extreme. I don't ever picture, you know quote-unquote retiring just fully retiring on a beach somewhere. I mean I love I think growth and serving others and serving yourself and just getting better and improving and is important and important facet of mental health and It all relates together so it all ties in together. That's, that's a good point. So yeah, I mean that's pretty awesome used to your growth in the last 7 years from a business standpoint is pretty phenomenal. And I ton of people would have quit at several different points during that during what you went through, for sure. And I do want the listeners to understand that you just said you could be doing whatever you want whenever you want. But you are choosing to be on our podcast right now? I am just joking, but, so I am going to fly through some quick questions here and see where it takes us. What's one thing that people misunderstand about?
Speaker 2
34:43
You? Miss. understand about me? Mmm, that's a really good question. Something that people misunderstand. Well, probably, one of the things in business maybe in business, right? People may misunderstand that. I care maybe because if you look at like disc profiles and you look at like what my personality type is, I am super strong and dominance and influence, and I am relatively low on stability and I think this C is like conscientiousness of others or something like that. But the main thing that actually drives me to even do anything This at all is to help people create freedom in their life and to help people on my team become financially free and expand their wealth and create more freedom in their life. So number one, they can actually start making decisions from their heart and soul, not from the Sessa T and then the more finances, the better they get in the financial world, the more they can go out there and spread their seed positively in the world. So that's actually what drives me and but when were in the thick of it, and in the weeds, especially if you're working, very closely with me. I am cracking the whip, man. And I am like, I am like pretty aggressive. I am like go, push and maybe I don't spend enough time kind of like you know smelling the flowers and showing appreciation. I certainly do it a lot more these days. But, you know, that's kind of my way of actually giving love and helping people out here on the planet.
Speaker 1
36:14
Got it? No, it makes a lot of sense. What would you say is one of your biggest failures or setbacks or challenges, however, you want to frame it besides What we have already talked about.
Speaker 2
36:29
This is I don't believe in Failure cause I know you have heard me say that before I think that every challenge is an opportunity for us to grow and it keeps popping up because we haven't learnt that lesson yet. You know, I could talk about like failures in business and everything like that. I can talk about like different parks and Investments for have had failures. But I think one of the areas that I haven't really spoken about them much really much in public at all, is that I wasn't like Wrong in reading and writing in school. Right? And literally, by the time that I dropped out of high school, and I was like year 11 when I dropped out. I read one book, man. I read one book and it was like way years earlier. So, then remember, when I left school, I got into the blue, collared trades, and all I had to do is read drawings. I didn't have to read words, you know. So, like I had terrible vocabulary, was always a bit of like a ghetto Australian, slang guy, right? And, and then, I also So just didn't have a need or desire to read much until I was in my, as I was like, 30 years old, or like just before 30, maybe in my late 20s. And I actually was 27 or 28, when I learn Spanish because I knew I was going down to Central and South America that I actually had to look again at, you know, English and grammar and all of this, you know. Because at that point, when I was like, 27, 28 years old, all I could do is just scrape together, sending an email and think about this. Fast forward in business. Like, you have to be a good communicator. You have to have an excellent vocabulary, you have to be able to, like right. You have to be able to present a message clearly and, you know, so I had to and then also I came to America and I didn't realize when I came to America how much I needed to change my vocabulary because I started telling jokes when I got over here, and I got to the punchline and, and I am like, I am ready for everybody to just start like crying out and laugh. After people just looking at me going price, I have got no idea talking about.
Speaker 1
38:32
Dude, that would, that was because of your vocabulary, or we could just yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2
38:37
It's because I used so much. I had so much slang that people are familiar with because the Australian culture uses a lot of slang in the sling moves really quickly like the words move, really they change all the time frequently. And so, it's a very different way to speak. And then I realized in the business World here, especially it's like, you have to go Can relearn entire English concept? The English language, right? And then I had to learn how to Grandma and how to like write properly and how to write emails. And then, you know, I went on to, you know, be a best-selling author and now it's actually one of my strengths but I had to turn that weakness into a strength in order to be able to do business in the first place. And that's just something I have never really talked about much.
Speaker 1
39:22
Yeah, that's Center, that's something, you know, many of us just take for granted because As we learned it in school or whatever, but so was it more just to dive in slightly more on that? We're been it more, you know? It was more challenging for you to learn that it was for others, or do you think it was just you didn't want to learn it because you didn't see a need for it at that time? I was.
Speaker 2
39:43
Freaking bored, man. I just it just used to bore me did in school, I didn't enjoy it. Like, for some reason I like math and science, I don't know what I ended up being pretty decent at that, and I suppose I scraped by with grades and even know how looking back with English. It just bored me and I probably at the time I was just thinking I am just doing an adventurous stuff anyway. So I don't need to read and write and you know maybe I wasn't good at it or something and maybe I kind of just like tapped myself out, I don't know what I did but I just wasn't interested. Now love it did now I read all the time. Now I kind of pride myself in like, you know, writing awesome articles or write for BiggerPockets good, another book that I am writing right now called the freedom Trinity that's probably going to launch. Next year. But, you know there's everybody's got something man. That was my dream. We have got things that we need to because really becoming financially free becoming financially successful. It's not about like when you have money, the money is going to solve your problems. That's really the most important thing. It's, it's the Journey of like who we have to become and then when we get to that point who we have become to be the person we needed to be. To achieve those achievements. It's really more about self development and it is very thing else.
Speaker 1
41:03
That's really good. Yeah, I was curious. If you're, if you're how your views on money, maybe had changed over the years. Anything you can say they're like if you were how does your when you were an 18-year old versus today? What was your view of money back then versus what it is now?
Speaker 2
41:20
Yeah I mean so like I always had a desire to go out and like earn money to get what I wanted. And so like I think I did a pretty good job at doing that of going out and saying, Hey I want this, so I know that I can go out and earn money to do that but what I didn't know at the time is that, like that's a never-ending way. You just go to keep going down that rabbit hole instead. Now I have a completely different way of doing it now. Go create investment. It's going to create cash flow to pay for something, which is very different from. Like, I am going to work x amount of hours and save up money, so I can go get this. Um, but I really I had to go through a whole reprogramming. My first main Mentor was T, harv Eker, and I read his book secrets of the millionaire mind, and we ended up going on my wife and I did like two three years training with his organization. People 10 shells, and we went through one of the first things is, we went through Visual audio and kinesthetic reprogramming of all of our — miners. Anshel mindset because what? I don't know what the time is. All of these experiences I had all the people that have been around or all inflicting — Financial Concepts on us. Things that we have heard like you have to make you have to earn money to make money. I start you have to. Yeah, you have to make money to earn money. Money doesn't grow on trees. Money is the root of all evil, all these things, they're all nonsense. We can shoot holes in them. I have actually, since then created a course called Financial Freedom Mastery, where we go through, In the process. We actually reprogram ourselves and learn a lot more about Financial Freedom as well. And it's literally the place that we need to stop. Because the reason that more people aren't successful. Number one, the reason financially, successful or financially free the number one reason is because people don't believe that it's possible for them and that's huge. So we have got to start with our.
Speaker 1
43:20
Mindset. Absolutely. Yeah. It is huge. That's awesome. Yeah, that's Either to me, either extreme is terrible. I mean, you know, you don't want to be, you know, slave to money that your whole life. Obviously you have you know, made the decision to experience life and kind of put money in its place and have money serve you but the other extreme is not good either where you just bury your head in the sand and pretend money has zero impact or zero significance. So I love the what I view as a healthy, take on the importance of money so that's really good.
Speaker 2
43:57
And then we can go too far the other way to Jamie. And we'd be like, you know, obsessed with money and thinking that like money is going to solve all of our problems. And like, can I just buy a solution to the problem and, you know, it's in certain places like, intimate relationships. It's like, the money's not going to necessarily solve that problem. Money makes our life easier, it makes their life better, it helps expand things in other areas but you know, we can go too far the other way as well.
Speaker 1
44:24
Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. All right, as we move toward a conclusion here, few more rapid fire questions, if you could have coffee with any historical figure, who would it be and why?
Speaker 2
44:36
So I have t isn't it green color? Okay T any historical.
Speaker 1
44:41
Figure could be historical or alive today? Anybody.
Speaker 2
44:47
Just one person man that hurts did you know there's so much because there's so many people but for some reason right now Bob Marley's coming up. I mean Dude is just a freedom advocate, he just created such a massive platform that still resonates today. I actually like reggae music. I like listening to a lot of his sons as well too, and I actually just went to a few of their concerts recently. I went to Stephen Marley and Ziggy Marley. Those guys have a message coming from like Bob being an evangelist of Freedom. Have a message of Freedom that was come out in like the 60s and 70s. It's like totally applicable to all of the That happening in the world today. So I think it would be amazing to like sit down and have a conversation. Bob Marley.
Speaker 1
45:33
Man. That's awesome. I am guessing you might have more than 22 but just all right, if you were given 20 million dollars tomorrow, what would you do with?
Speaker 2
45:45
It? Dude, I did invest it in the recession resistant Investments that we bring to the table row because that's what I believe in. That's the, that's the difference that we can make man. So, you know, I am out there like helping as many investors as I can create Financial Freedom, expand their wealth so that they can live free make decisions from their heart and soul go out and spread their seed, be financially back to make difference in the world that they want to. So yeah, that's what I do, man.
Speaker 1
46:15
That's awesome. I love it. So before we wrap up here to talk a little bit more about kind of, you know, your book coming out or any recent deals, you have gone on. What's going on today in your business?
Speaker 2
46:29
Yeah, I am going to look going on man. Yeah, the freedom Trinity that will probably be coming out next year. It's in the very, very early stages of the works here. The freedom Trinity is financial time and location Freedom collectively. When we live that together, we have true freedom in the material world in our life. Think spiritual psychological and health freedom is so important as well. That's a little bit of a different topic. Yeah, Financial Freedom Mastery. That's actually something we have been putting a lot of energy into recently, that's where we're literally teaching people what our system has failed to teach us. I believe our system is created to create employees and cogs in the wheel to fulfill their dreams. Not actually our dreams. And, so I am really dedicated to helping people Create Financial Freedom. And so, basically, what I have done is I have taken 10 years of experience, hundreds of thousands of dollars of self-education, and millions of dollars of like invested Capital risk Capital. Put out there to prove the philosophies and Concepts and principles that we actually teach and Financial Freedom Mastery. And we teach that over a two-day period, we do it live. We also do it in a virtual setting as well, and the course is literally designed that through Watching Freedom exercises. Each of the participants, literally create their own custom design, Financial Freedom, strategy, and plan, based off their own specific, needs desires and circumstances because none of us are created equal or in the same position. And so, that's really exciting. And if anyone's interested in finding out more about that, go to Freedom, Trinity.com and really, we're just like going to bring as many recession resistant. Investments that we can to the table was going to keep going and keep expanding our Smorgasbord of recession resistant, Investments and serving our Inner.
Speaker 1
48:27
Circle, love it. Do you when you raise capital or and look for investors, is it accredited only or do you work with non-accredited investors as well? We work.
Speaker 2
48:37
With both some of our investments, allow both accredited and non-accredited and some of them offer credit only, but we definitely accommodate both.
Speaker 1
48:48
That's really cool in this course to because it's I think one of the main problems with, you know, specifically public education as far as Finance codes as well for one, it may not be. You know, the teacher may not be the person who should be kind of giving out this financial education. No offense to public school teachers. My mom was one for many years. And two it has to be catered. Like you just said, it has to be catered to the individual. So it's not a one-size-fits-all solutions to many.
Speaker 2
49:21
One-size-fits-all things out there, even with health and relationships and everything. And it's just the world just doesn't work like that and you hit on the head man. Like no one wants to that fitness instructor. So if you're going to be financially successful, you won't learn by somebody who's like way ahead of where you are.
Speaker 1
49:38
Absolutely, I love it, man. Bryce Definitely need to re-listen to this one, this has been fantastic. You have any more quick gold nuggets. You want to drop before we sign off here.
Speaker 2
49:51
I will just say like guys. It's never been more important to take care of ourselves financially, where we're on the precipice of like big historical events to happen economically. And I we didn't really like break into that much today. But some really interesting times it comes to say the least, I think it's going to be a time when there's gonna be a lot of people in need. There's going to be a lot of people position to be able to help as well. I know I will be on the helping side of that. So I would just say, like, expand your awareness of what's happening around you and what's coming in the near future. It's my belief that we're going to experience some pretty hardcore like economic downturns, potentially some of the biggest that we're seeing in our life. So the time has never been more important, we are in the 11th hour to take action on this. It's not too late to get going on it but it's time to take action now and Us taking control of our freedom, in all areas of our life. And you know, the financial piece is a good place to start.
Speaker 1
50:49
Absolutely whole of it, that was really well. Said Bryce, where can our listeners find you online? I know you have already mentioned it, but go ahead and plug it again, if you would. Yeah. So, you know if you want to.
Speaker 2
50:59
Just find out about Investments, more about us, go to invest cultivate.com, and we spell cultivate with the number 8 so that's invest. See you LT ivy. She and number eight.com and if you're looking to find out more about Financial Freedom Mastery go to Freedom, Trinity.com fantastic.
Speaker 1
51:21
Price Robertson thank you so much for your time today. It's been fantastic and for our listeners out there thank you for spending your most valuable resource with us and that is your time as well. Take care, everyone.
Speaker 2
51:36
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