From a Brain Tumor to Clarity of Purpose with Multifamily Expert Bryan Chavis

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 Welcome everybody, to another episode of the form adversity, to abundance podcast. I am your host Jamie Bateman. And today I am delighted to have a special guest with us. Brian Chavis of by it. Rent it profits, education Brian's, got a, an extremely moving story and I know we're going to dive into that. Brian. How are you doing today?

Speaker 1

04:12

 I am blessed, man, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2

04:14

 That's awesome. Now, where are you joining As from Brian?

Speaker 1

04:18

 Tampa. Florida.

Speaker 2

04:19

 Okay, nice. I was in that in Tampa in March.

Speaker 1

04:25

 Okay. Nice.

Speaker 2

04:26

 For a mortgage note event, actually two different events. And we went to the other coasts after the Tampa one. But for our listeners out there, I know you have a pretty good-sized following but for our listeners who are unfamiliar with you, who are you and what are you up to today?

Speaker 1

04:43

 Yeah. Who am I? My father, husband and entrepreneur, you know. And, you know, I guess my professor, my skill sets are, is multifamily been in the space for almost, well, over probably closed. Now, let us just say, well over two decades started in the apartment industry, the multifamily space started. My journey on educating and Consulting in that. That industry as an instructor for the national Apartment Association teaching their designations and training. So it's kind of had morphed into, you know, the Byron Prophet formerly known as the landlord Academy. You know, I morphed into that space and writing books and things of that nature. Cut all generated from the multifamily industry, to the coaching and Consulting and education, space platform that we have now which is known as Byron. Profit education. But yeah, definitely of the W2. Uh, you know, the entrepreneurial passion is, is the multifamily space.

Speaker 2

05:58

 Got it. And so what's just, before we dive into your backstory? What's the, what's a typical week look like for?

Speaker 1

06:04

 You typical week? Yeah, you mean so up eyes. Open around three. Thirty three, twenty-three. 34 am up and I usually try to just focus on, you know, I will give it to you. I kind of like Joel Osteen. So, you know, I have I am not doing something out of the Bible app, some sort of, you know, you can do a lot of lessons out of these, this app, you know, there's a lot of great lessons in there, you know, for entrepreneurs, you can grab entrepreneur. So I have some, I will listen to that and let that so Soak in some, you know, sometimes whether be Joel, Osteen's, not let that soak in. So I will do that for about 45 minutes and then I, then I get started with the grind. Midday is usually the palette on and, you know, then I am you know, that I usually start winding it down right around 3:00 when I pick up my first little one from school Judah and the phone goes from active to that personal sitting on your if you have an iPhone. You know, that person said they go That person said in way it's kind of hard to get ahold of after 3:00, and I am in that space of being a father and a husband usually make it to why usually the Y on the weekends for the classes for exercise and then Mondays are our pipeline days when we're looking at projects and Deals and Tuesdays are vitamin profit solely based on Byron profit education. We're meeting with the team, and we're working on curriculum working on coaching or Consulting and working on a various different packages and projects that we have there Wednesday's are my golf days when I sometimes I will meet with was in the passenger seat. Here's Dr. Danny, this is our director of Acquisitions at tables Capital. So, we will meet for about a half hour, and we usually go into Golf Tech and practice Thursday's is pretty much all podcast and, and, and it lives own trainings that I do in the Consulting that I do Fridays, are my office or my personal day. So that's usually consists of doing, you know, sometimes in the morning, one-on-one calls with a lot of our coaching clients and things. I have those that day schedule for that mid-morning, after those calls mid-afternoon, then it's back to golf. I am usually at Golf Tech are actually had depending on the weather at the golf course. And then I usually get my practice in and My goal there is to qualify for a US Open qualifier this year, so you know I am always golf the somewhere always the bad guy. Yeah.

Speaker 2

09:01

 Yeah. It's awesome.

Speaker 1

09:16

 3, the Tiger Woods video game.

Speaker 2

09:18

 You have, there you go. Yeah, I supported it. I have wanted my whole life because you know, I knew that I would want to get good and then that requires time and money I am not at a lot of time and but yeah, it was, it was fun. We will see where it goes, but that's awesome. You just, you sound like you're pretty structured and but it more that you have your priorities, you know, defined and therefore your schedule.

Speaker 1

09:45

 Kind of. Yeah. Now and been always but you know over time you evolve and you know you hope to evolve over time that's the goal. But ya know that I haven't always been structured. Haven't always been as focused. Yeah. You know that Vance and you know that will talk about things that happen to you. Yeah. The idea is to evolve.

Speaker 2

10:08

 Yeah, absolutely. So yeah. Let us dive in. I know you feel told your story once or twice before but If you would, you know, jump back to whatever year you'd like, and we will start and go through kind of chronologically. Some of the adversity that you have been through on the personal side. And we will see what Lessons Learned we can pull out for our listeners and, and go from there. So, you know, I think, you know, from what I know, you're the ideal guest for this show, I typically throw in the.

Speaker 1

10:42

 Quantum on, hey, well, well, well.

Speaker 2

10:51

 It is not only adversity though. It's also too abundant. So you know and I always usually throw in the qualifier that look everyone's story is different or trying to avoid you know straight up comparison where oh this guy's adversity was worse than this person's adversity and you know but the reality is you have been through some real hardship and trying times that we're going to dive into Then and I also throw in the qualifier that look, we don't just snap our fingers and now we're magically in all abundance, and we get to play golf 24/7, and we have no challenges. So with that said, where would you like to start? Well, I mean.

Speaker 1

11:36

 It's your show. So I will let you guide but you know, just on the topic of adversity, you're right. I mean even before, you know, the brain tumor, you know, there was always adversely. I think, you know some, I don't know, some people are, are gifted, some people are blessed, whatever it is, you know, whatever your face, I am saying, anointed some say blast something. Lucky, you know, all depends on your perspective on how you look through the, you know, the lens. But Some people in life that, you know, that some of us some of your listeners are going to look in and I would be like yeah that's my Uncle. Joe that's my best friend Tommy. Everything's easy for them. You know, they're never faced with any adverse adversely. You know, there're those individuals like that and then there're individuals like myself that seemed, you know, that adversely just seemed to you. No, no. Knock are going to be on their doorstep, you know? It's like a constant guess that guess you. Can't get rid of right. That's when we were you and I were talking before in The Green Room about David Goggins, why? I kind of like, you know, some of the things that he was saying is because you know that's the I guess, you know that's the journey he's on it's never been an easy journey and so it's just like, you know, his philosophy is, smash it right in the mouth. You know what I resonate with. That know everybody has different perspective. I am never going to get out and run, 100 miles unless somebody's chasing me. So Is not necessarily my thing. You know, I do like the exercise, obviously. But, you know, everybody approaches what they have had to go through, and I am no stranger to that. You know, me in the beginnings battling the, you know, the educational space, graduating late nineteen years old with a special diploma meaning you know, the people make in front of the person that drives the short bus to school, you know, that was meals on the short bus, you know if it wasn't for basketball, you know that Ever would have graduated from obviously high school. So, thank God for, you know, the sport of basketball at that time, it allowed me to get out. And also get into college. When I probably got the definitely didn't really belong to qualify to get into school back, then they had things called prop 48. So you know, I did that because I didn't pass the SATs but so things have always been a struggle but the main struggle that I think, you know, your guess what I did Ben and I can and I will Is this real quick? You know, I always say, I have never passed an English class, you know, I felt probably every English class I have ever taken through high school but yet at the end of the day, you can't walk into any books for pretty much in the world and not go to the real estate section and find me. So you can't go to the u.s. Library of Congress and not find me. So at the end of the day, I am not saying this to brag, I am saying this to your, you know, as a preference to adversity is You know, yeah, I wasn't a brilliant student. Yes, I was a special education. And yeah, you know, there's, I was at the butt of a ton of jokes, you know, through high school. But like I said, fast-forward to where we are today, walking any bookstore. And a lot of those people that were naysayers. Lot of those people that laughed about being on the short bus to school. A lot of men, laughing now, you know, like I said, you ain't gonna find nothing them on any bookshelf on any. Yeah. Anywhere. So you.

Speaker 2

15:07

 Really made something of yourself for sure and made a Major Impact, right?

Speaker 1

15:12

 So, I adversity is, you know where we're familiar with, you know? It's, yeah. You know. That's, yeah. So the overcoming the challenges, you know, where were, you know, I thought at that time, that, you know, that was like, you know, that was the challenging part of who I Brian Davis was and then, in 2012 on Christmas Eve, I was went to He was been my fiance and I guess I got sick. I got the flu at Disney came home and got some flu medicine laid that on the couch, she went out to get some stuff for Christmas dinner and I had a major seizure Christmas Eve, rushed to the hospital. Find out on Christmas Eve. In 2012, that I was that I had a brain tumor, not only a brain tumor because they say a lot of people are walking around with brain tumors and don't know it, Dr. Danny ISM passenger. See, here's a physician probably can articulate more than I can, but mine in particular, was on my motor cortex.

Speaker 2

16:15

 Tends to surgery or the seizures.

Speaker 1

16:18

 And affected everything on my left-hand side. So, you know, I had to, I had to deal with that and then continue to run a business and operate with having these seizures on a daily basis and eventually three or four of them, you know, on a daily basis going through battling chemo. Which I wouldn't, I wouldn't wish that on my enemies and just, and still having to maintain and try to maintain a business. And the speaking tour, you know, that, you know, when I got sick and was on chemo, you know, to a lot of folks had to cancel and I had to cancel out engagement stuff. There was a struggle of, not only having cancer, but also the financial toll that, right? But that, that dealing with, this has on an individual. Go base with the ton of that verse 3 at this time but it's Lisa.

Speaker 2

17:09

 Absolutely. I mean, so if you would set the stage a little bit for us, as far as prior to Christmas Eve, you know, what was you mentioned? Your business is already but what did your, what did your life look? Like you mentioned your businesses and your fiance but kind of what was going on prior to Christmas Eve at that.

Speaker 1

17:26

 Point. Thanks and things were great. At least, I thought they were. And you do you realize how, you know, again what lens you look for looking through. I think I was Comfortable, I think I was complacent but things were. Well, the book was doing well, I mean, you know, Byron and profit is one of those books where it's, you know, it's the reason why they love it, is that it's something that's Timeless, so, it's always done. Well, speaking engagements we're doing well, you know, I was, I was on the outside looking in. I was doing well, it wasn't till getting sick and have him look through different lenses that I realized that I could probably be doing so much more. You know, so yeah. So I think, you know, on the outside well, but really was I, you know, but you know, that's, you know, again, that's, you know, that's, you know, not knowing what was coming up in 2012 on Christmas Eve. You know if you ask me, I would say I am doing absolutely.

Speaker 2

18:24

 Great. Right? Got it. So, and, and obviously we're not going to spend the entire time on Christmas Eve and those that those hours and days and I, you know, that's the risk with this shows. We gloss over so much pain and struggle that you went through. But the fact is you know, that was obviously an extremely difficult time. What was going through your mind just in those immediate the immediate days there? You know, that first week.

Speaker 1

18:51

 Say Man, I wish I could tell you know, and really articulated to your viewers but I can't because you know a lot of it is stuff that you kind of put towards the back you have to kind of compartmentalize because it's so much trauma. So like to sit here and to kind of really yeah those files.

Speaker 2

19:15

 Is experienced and up, don't fly understand, but.

Speaker 1

19:17

 Yeah. No one was wanting to. At this time, no one was wanting to touch the tumor, it was more. So let us try to maintain it because it was on my more Who are text meaning, if they were moved it, they would paralyze me. And so no one really wanted to do it. And, so I was in that period of having the chemo and seeing them to chemo. Could keep it where it was, it's what I went Growing. And so it's a lot of that. It was a lot of the going to Moffitt. I know a lot of people that I am not knocking Moffitt but my experience wasn't great. Know a lot of the feedback I was getting was just — it might have just been, you know who I spoke to at the time of the physician I spoke to at the time, but it was, I can remember. Damn, sure wasn't Encouraging. Well I remember where even if.

Speaker 2

20:24

 It was that we were referring to.

Speaker 1

20:26

 Masa Cancer Center. Okay got it. Got it yet. No I am there and dealing with the consultants and speaking to a woman I just remember the news wasn't all that great. And you know it's sort of the idea of what would happen if they removed it and how I would be in the state of mind, I would be in wasn't really? I am not trying to be a vegetable. I am not trying to have someone. My diapers and feed me and especially a fiance who was young in a had a great career self. So, you know, the idea at that time was, you know, do I go out like that? I know I go out on my own terms. I think we kind of all know what I am talking about. And so it was all I was constantly dealing with that struggle of do I, you know, do I, you know, go out on my own terms are, do I risk it and you know again the feedback that I am getting at the time from the Physicians, it wasn't waiting. On the favor of low, less, less, less, less, less, less stick around. Let us see how things, how the cards play out. And then one day, there're these guys that, you know, I used to live on a place in Tampa called Davis Island really nice spot. And every month, these two young men, think they were Jehovah Witnesses, would always stop by knock on my door and I would always remember, you know, giving them water and just having brief conversations with them before. I was like, walking out to the Course we're going wherever I was going at the time and all short conversations, always make sure I gave him some water and just help you. I will just speak, you know, just brief conversation. I remember this time. They knocked on my door and I really didn't want to see him. At this time, I was sitting my mind, I was going to deal with things my way, I am going to go out on my terms. So I was dead set on walking out the door, and I was on the on my way out the door. And these course, I opened up the door and these two are sitting on my doorstep other. They're coming up the.

Speaker 2

22:19

 Stairs.

Speaker 1

22:22

 This is not, you know, I don't want to see these two, right? So anyway they start talking, and we have this conversation, they can see it on my face that wasn't really in you know, in any mood is sort of weird, was that ass? Yeah, so one of them asked me who never talks what's going on and I mentioned to him what was going on, and he was like, man, you gotta you know, make these type of decisions. Based on what a man thinks are. Well even if he is a physician, he's just a position he can only give you his opinion. You know, you're going to make this Beast, this decision, I guess he can just read it on my face with my decision had been, so you can make a decision that you can't go come back from based on an individual. What do you know, he's like, you know, the little bit. We know about, you been never a person that did anything took anybody's opinion and it made it set in stone. And, you know, now you're going to do that. And so, you know, it was a little bit more detail than that and back and forth in the conversation. But I can just remember Dawn, you know, yeah, you sound. Yeah, that sounds about right. You know, maybe these doctors don't know everything and so you know just give me the Reader's Digest version, long story short, summary from Tampa General Hospital, great physician out of there said, Hey, listen, you know, I can map his brain. I think I can make it run at it. He's an athlete. You know, he's in great shape. I think we can make a run at it. I think we can remove the tumor. He will be paralyzed. But I think we can get I can get it back. So again, you know, just imagine this you're, you know, we're gonna cut you open, you're gonna be awake by the way, during surgery, while we're taking this brain tumor out of your head, you're going to be awake and you're going to be paralyzed on the table. No, not afterward. You can let yourself go numbing and then lose your extremities on the table, but you look like you're in shape. So we're gonna.

Speaker 2

24:19

 I just can't even. I don't mean to, I don't mean to.

Speaker 1

24:21

 Laugh. Conversation is much more technical a map your brain. They give you eyes and statistics but it's basically like it for a my golfers out there. It's basically like well it's a 15 mile an hour ahead when you know, you got an 8 iron. Yeah. And you know, you can hit, you know, it's a 50/50 chance. We're gonna make the green but more likely we're gonna, you know, I mean, so it doesn't look good, you know, it's like, you know, it doesn't look good. So.

Speaker 2

24:50

 And this is how long approximately.

Speaker 1

24:53

 After this was so 2012, so 2014. Okay is when they decided. So I had to spend up to two years with it. In my head, dealing with these seizures. Going through chemo, drastically losing, my business, and losing my right of my Revenue, because a lot of it revolves around me. Physically coaching key thing and speaking and book signing, and all these things. So, without me being on the road and doing, you know, obviously you can understand how the bills, Are piling up and also chemo for every dose was dosage. Ten thousand dollars just keep that in mind over two years. How many dosage dosages multiple dosages? I had to tell you can do the math, the surgeries millions of dollars. So it's just and that would be exploratory surgery. This the, for the guy that cut open and say, oh, this is what we're dealing. What? So you back up, send you on your way, you.

Speaker 2

25:44

 Know, just to come up with some options 810.

Speaker 1

25:46

 Shal plan. That's right. Well yeah, I mean I don't Stay in the house with all the various things so you can understand what's going on and what you're dealing with and so, so yeah. So now you fast-forward to 2014. There's a guy that, you know, Dr. Jiggle is it you call I want to remember his name and I wish I could up the top of my head like I said I am sorry but a lot of you a lot of this you kind of put in the back and lock tray but Dr. Goal was my oncologist that physician that did. It was forgotten his name, but he was a reporter Freaking Doctor. I wish I remember his name, but really cool. Dude. Took a chance. And I think I can do it. We're going to do this exploratory, way of was anesthesia anesthesiologist, Dr. Danny, they came up with a new way of doing the anesthesia and I don't know how to say my saying, right in. Yeah, that yeah, they came up with a way to numb me. I whatever that stuff does. And so, so they bother these this team and then When they woke me up on the table, and they already have my head, they already had me open. There's the guy that does the anesthesiologist rights at mycenae, right? There's ham and then there's doctor the doctor that was removing the.

Speaker 2

27:05

 Tumor. Yeah. The surgeon yet.

Speaker 1

27:07

 Sturgeon, and then a bunch of students rights there at the feet of my. That's why if you look on my social media feed, you can see they took a picture of me, and I am awake and I smile Smiles on purpose when they took the Picture. But, you know, that's, they removed the tumor, they did paralyze me, you know, eventually it took, you know, some time for me to get it everything back. And, yeah, you know, you had, I had to learn how to walk talk brush my teeth, do all the, all the, various different things again, and as the doctor thought, I did eventually gain those things back. But, you know, I remember removing myself out of the physical therapist and deciding the really just do my own thing. They're being figured, I knew my body better than anybody and so you know I started on my own path on trying to get myself back. But yeah man you know over that time it just was a lot of reflection and a lot of understanding, a lot of testing of the faith. Sure. You know, I was always somewhat religious, I always believed in God, I always believed that, you know, hey, you know, but they know me. Obviously, going through this, you think to yourself, what kind of God would, you know, would why am I praying that, this particular guy when everything around every corner has just been bad news. After bad news, what kind of God is this, is this that I have been praying to for the last, you know, 30 years, you know? Sure it's.

Speaker 2

28:31

 So you look to that things are. Yeah, it's easy to be a believer when things are going well. Oh.

Speaker 1

28:37

 God. You know, he wanted something for you better, but he couldn't get it to you and you can't really share the message with things being so easy. You know, the world doesn't need individuals, and maybe we can see this with the lack of leadership. Don't matter what size and I will you're on laughed, right? There's a lack of leaders all the way across the borders, the lack of leadership across on, you know, and every party there's just leadership is just it no longer and, you know, it's in short order, and so I think the preparation of in and really, in order to lead, effectively you would have to have suffering. You have to have some sort of experience, you know who's gonna follow somebody where the life has been of he's, you know, you.

Speaker 2

29:35

 Can't. Yeah.

Speaker 1

29:36

 Yeah. What has been a cakewalk? So it's very difficult.

Speaker 2

29:39

 So what was 2014 kind of? And again we're glossing over so much. But how long did it take you to get you know, kind of back to kind of your Pre Christmas Eve 20? Never I mean.

Speaker 1

29:54

 Either you know I would be honest with you man. There're days when I mean, you know, can I move my hands and do all that? Absolutely, but it was my speech 100% back. No, I still feel like Eisler Stern words especially if I get hot from on the golf course and things are really hot. You know, there're days when you will slur your words and, you know, because you're only, there're things there're headaches and you never, you never back. But you know, ultimately, I am here, you know, I can spend Time with my kids and pick them up and do the things, you know. But now I love you and you're never 100%.

Speaker 2

30:26

 Back. Got it. So you have been, it's been essentially 10 years that you have been dealing with yes, almost. So now just before I fire off some, some other questions. What's how did you treat your business? What changes have you made to your business? You know, you mentioned you were such an integral part of your business with speaking engagements and all that. Imagine now since you're able to set aside time to golf and be with your family and everything, I imagine, you have quite a different structure than you had in 2012 from a business standpoint. How's the difference? What's the difference?

Speaker 1

31:07

 I would say it's still similar. I am still, I am still driven. I am still required of it of the business, very much. So it's just when you decide to prioritize and you decide to put goals in front of you, you will be how your You will be amazed how, how you can organize become more structured and think everybody feels like, you know, a now, I am doing things, I am complacent. I am now you can you, you can always, you can get more structure can be able. Yeah, you can get hyper focused, so I don't think, you know, the business feel you're an entrepreneur, the business still requires time. It's, it's, you know, it's like, well, why you're sleeping you got to remember? I am up. So, when you're saying, am I really Let us involve no. But I found more hours because I am up at 3:30. When you're still sleeping, your eyes suppose, I am up at 3:30. So yeah, I do you be surprised that, you know, you listened a lot with Kobe Bryant says, and how he approached practice and how he approached the kids crafts. And you realize that man, listen some you know Kobe was on his third practice by the time people roll into their first practice sure the he clown time and so you will be surprised when you get discipline you have a passion you know, the Tuck the time, you know you begin to get a little bit more structure to you. Find the time necessary to do the things you want to do got it makes one variable promise it requires, Great sacrifice. See lot of folks don't like sacrifice. They like to be confident, you know? I mean there's not it's like you know, it's but that's fine because the brain and the body naturally for survival seek the path of less resistance and seeks to be comfortable. That's how you survive, ideally right? The fight against everything that you that your DNA. It's a fight against everything that you're brought up to believe in to be able to do it but once you start tapping into that yeah you realize that you find time for those things and that sometimes some of the stuff that you thought you don't need it to require your time wasn't really all that important and so you know you start seeking, you know, your passion versus you know, a paycheck or profit and you begin to Restructuring. And when you really understand and have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, do you really understand how fragile, and how that, that chase of the old Mighty Dollar, really? It's not saying it's important. Not important. But how do you have to kind of reposition and restructure your mindset on how to bring that in come in? And that takes a lot of structure. That takes a lot of discipline. It takes a hell of a lot of sacrifice. And that's why many don't ever really achieve it because they can't put those Things together.

Speaker 2

33:53

 So it sounds like this, you know if we had to draw out what your, what Your approach, and your life, and your business, how it looked pre-2012 or pre December 2012 versus now, what I am hearing is that, you got very clear on your priorities and maybe added some more structure, probably over time, maybe not overnight. But over time it more over more structure. To your life. I mean, you just mapped out, you know, every week I am sure certain weeks and days are different obviously, but what else would you say is just, I guess just if you had to pick, you know, one or two lessons learned from all this adversity, what would you say? Those are?

Speaker 1

34:40

 I mean there's I wish you got well, honestly, I wish you could give one or two, there is no one or two lessons, you know. That's, that's a bunch of horse. Hey look, here're five steps. There's two.

Speaker 2

34:50

 No, no. Yeah. And I am not saying the most important or the only one or but just you know, I am sure there's ten lessons, or 20 or 30 but just you know.

Speaker 1

35:01

 And this is what you at the bottom line is to keep moving forward. There is no my lessons in my steps. In the way I put it together in my chronological order to make it work. For me it's going to be different from what it would be for what your face you might have. I have two children, you might have six, you know. It's you know I might be an entrepreneur. You might be an entrepreneur as well as have a full-time job W to your circumstances, everybody your listeners circumstances going to be different. So I am not gonna try to say here're some things and this is what I will say is that discipline in the sacrifice and like I said, moving forward putting those things together restructuring and having some sort of faith base that you can lean on. Yeah, even though it's trial and error in it, and he even know, like I said, you know, to this day, I still act. Why I have questions, sure, but being trying to be grounded in something greater than myself and having faith in something more than money myself. These things were really my faith and my discipline and the willingness to make sacrifice. You know if you can figure out how to kind of implement those things, you know, I think, I think you're much more equipped to face whatever challenges, you know, that your listeners are going to face the bottom line is, everybody eventually is going to face something? Yeah, you know, that's what you go through is going to face some sort of headwind.

Speaker 2

36:30

 If I had say over the course of the show, what the number one thing I have pulled out at from guests, it would definitely be as far as what help them get through this adversity. It would definitely be focusing on being a part of something bigger than themselves and That could be, you know, Faith. But certainly, I would say, if I look back at all the episodes, I have done, I think, every single guest that faced major adversity and got through that, they shifted their focus at some point away from themselves. Not say that, you know, not to say you should never focus on yourself, or never, you know, except that you're in pain or but eventually, you get to a point where you're focused on others and impact. T' and you know, that's just an observation, yeah, standpoint. So yeah, I.

Speaker 1

37:29

 Agree. Don't disagree at all.

Speaker 2

37:31

 I am going to fire off some, some rapid fire questions, or you go with.

Speaker 1

37:34

 That. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2

37:38

 What's one thing that people misunderstand about you Brian?

Speaker 1

37:43

 Ha, ha. You know, that's funny. I honestly because after dealing with what I am dealing with, I don't really give a damn with zero stock in how you go receive it and how people perceive me or received me? I that's not my job is worrying about. If that was my job is something that I did do I would have to get up at once instead of three or four in the morning, you know, because I just prepared During my day worrying about how people think of me. So I don't know.

Speaker 2

38:20

 whether that's a great answer. What would you say is one of your you may frame it differently but what's one of your biggest failures are regrets in your.

Speaker 1

38:31

 Life? Again, every one of those have helped shape me, so I don't have any. So if it wasn't for the failure that wouldn't be. I don't think I would have been disciplined enough. I don't think I would have been disciplined enough to face down some of the stuff that I faced on it. Hadn't been for the challenges of always being the underdog, but I had been prepared to face the brain tumor. You know, some may argue. Yes, I made, you know, II, first need knowing me. I would say no. So II don't, you know, the failures that I have, I have learned to accept those and look upon them not as failures, but as, as building blocks to help develop my character in who I am.

Speaker 2

39:14

 Yeah, I love it. It's great. If you could have coffee with any historical figure, who would.

Speaker 1

39:19

 It is? Of coffee with anybody. Who would he be exact? I mean, obviously for me, that the obviously I would love, you know, half of half the stories you read in the Bible. I would have loved to be able to, but, you know, obviously, that stuffed, I gleaned from so many different individuals or so many, great influencers out there, you know, that's just a tough bastard. Oh, I don't mean it, it depends on the day if I am working on my golf game. Tiger Woods if I am yeah, you know, I am in this kind of like a philosophy thinking phase, it's got to be you know, I love the sat down with a you know, you know some days it might be an abominable. Ahmad Ali are, you know, there's I wish I could tell you but no, now that's good. Kind of people. I would have loved to sit down with me.

Speaker 2

40:07

 And maybe for David Goggins in there. Maybe two.

Speaker 1

40:11

 Yeah. But he says he's so shy. So I don't think he opens up more, you know, on the I don't want any parts today. But God gives, man. That's true.

Speaker 2

40:25

 No time for conversation. So, I know you have a book that's done. Very well, if you had to write another book this year, what would it be?

Speaker 1

40:37

 About? And that's a great question because I am going to write another book this year, it's going to be more of a multi-family investing in multifamily. Kind of like an almanac plus a mixture of my purse. Story and several people that I think I have impacted in their lives their stories. So yeah that's what it's going to be.

Speaker 2

41:00

 About awesome, what's one Speaking of your business? What's one challenge that you're facing in your business right now?

Speaker 1

41:08

 Well, it wouldn't be a business if it wasn't multiple challenge. It was this one challenge, man. It would life will be so much. I wouldn't have to get up at 4:00. I can get up at 8:00, you know, but, you know, I think The challenge for me, in the space is, you know, the being able to figure out how to be comfortable with yourself and your message when there's so much messaging going on out in the marketplace. You know, there's new Guru, a new expert every week or somebody on social media. You know, that's a that's an expert in multifamily of a sudden, you know, you know, so it's like, understanding how to navigate, you know. Oh, that know it's taken me a while to just say, you know what you have to, and I have heard Gary Vee say this, you know, you the heck, with what all the noise is you focus on, you know, you focus on what's in front of you. So, just realizing how to focus on what's in front of me and getting my message out, whether that be one person or 100,000 that the idea has to be when you're starting a business to focus on that, who York that, you know if it's one client, Focus on that one client because if you can't service one client, you can't service 10. And if you can't service, then you can't service 100. So on and so forth. So, just making sure that you understand and really stay to your strengths and what your passions are and what you think your message is it even though there's so many millions of the messages, you just have to believe in your message that it's going to resonate with the Right.

Speaker 2

42:47

 Audience. That's great since you have been in real estate in multifamily for to do Decades. It sounds like do you have any thoughts on? You know, I am not asking you to predict the future for say, but are you what do you think? You know what are you doing in your business based on market conditions right now?

Speaker 1

43:10

 Yeah, you know I the future is I can predict the future. The future is going to be unpredictable. So they're my hair is my market analysis but you know the unpredictability of any, any Market is where you find when you're a great operator in your Venue really understand. And I am not talking about the major topics that are out there right now and multi-family which is acquiring deals and raising money. I am talking about operations, when you're, when you will, you have mastered the ability to navigate, where I consider all five phases, the acquisition phase, the implementation stabilization growth and exit strategy. When you have been able to master the ability to navigate those five phases when there's adversity, you, you like the adversity? It's like, again, I will give you a good another golf analogy. When the winds pick up and the greens are fast. And course, conditions are tough. You like that? Because the field, If you are behind the field comes to you, you know because people are going to start losing Strokes. People are — oh it's windy. They're going to let that get in our head. All the grains are too fast. They're going to let that get in her head. See some people can't face down in adversity but because of this story and this is the whole reason behind your podcast. Yeah, adversely I find it vantage's in adversity. I mean look at my look at this, my story. Yes I find Advanced in that verse 3. So in the marketplace, The same thing is applicable. I find where other start falling, and they start let the wind getting her head and the greens being too fast. Getting their head and their Strokes. You know, they start losing strokes and clean. The field starts coming back to you. That's when I pick up, that's what I see opportunity to go for the jugular and it's the same thing in this market is I don't care what we're faced with high inflation higher interest rates. Yeah there's an opera somebody's going to unlock the key and find the you know the projects that makes sense. You're Five markets and projects that make sense for every market. And that's you just have to be a really sound in your fundamentals, being able to navigate those five phases. God, that's the key.

Speaker 2

45:20

 It's great. That reminds me of somebody, I interviewed on my previous podcast. Dave, Van Horn. He's a, he's been in the note space for a long.

Speaker 1

45:27

 Time. No. Dave do, you know? Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

45:33

 He mentioned something like You know, as far as politics or, you know, legislation being passed, that might affect real estate and notes and things. He's like, I don't, I don't just tell me he said something like, tell me what the rules are and I will figure out a way to win, I don't really care what's.

Speaker 1

45:48

 A good rules, are.

Speaker 2

45:51

 Exactly. He's been around for so long, and he's got his fundamentals down, you know and it's slow moving enough that you can react and Implement a plan based on what's changing around you.

Speaker 1

46:03

 Back to the golf analogy. If you're fundamentally sound, you know how to strike the ball, you're fundamentally side, you put the ball in the Fairway. Listen, man, the course conditions, you know what I mean? That might affect you, but if you're mentally tough and you're fundamentally sound brother, you know. Yeah, just point me in the right direction and yeah, we can go low.

Speaker 2

46:23

 I love it. That's great. As we wrap up here cause I know you got your busy guy. And what is one book or two that you'd recommend for my.

Speaker 1

46:35

 Audience. First of all, by rented property.

Speaker 2

46:38

 Hey, there you go.

Speaker 1

46:39

 See I would be remiss if I didn't. If I did, you know mention my own book? But, you know, there are several books. I love several books. I listen to, I have not, I don't understand the philosophy of in it, maybe because it's me, but I don't understand the philosophy of reading many books, you know, you know guys are see on social media, sometimes point to hundreds, and I am just looking for some I guess they passed me. I don't have that. Get me three or four books and read them for the next 10 years and because it takes me a minute to implement. So if you're like that you know I get the richest man in Babylon. Yeah. Like the e-myth, I am always diving into the Bible and looking for lessons, you know. So yeah, those I would say outside of my book, the book, probably the greatest book of all for me personally is the book of Five Rings. The Book of five rings. It's about ADI Samurai, Miyamoto Musashi. Probably Japan's, the greatest Samurai, wrote a book called The Book of five rings. Go Wing no-show and the right before he passed away. Yeah, you know, he had like something of 20-something dual 17 to 20 some doors of course you know back then they duel to the death. So you know pretty good record one. But then he wrote this book and it's a book of strategy and that has helped me with my mental mindset. So if you really That you can get it on audio but it's called The Book of five.

Speaker 2

48:08

 Rings. That's a great one out to check that out. Hadn't heard that one I think I have heard of it but I.

Speaker 1

48:12

 Had not for everybody because you know it's the samurai in its book is strategy and it's but you know if you have kind of fan of The Art of War which would be another book but if you're a fan of those Zen leaderships, there's a book to if you're a fan of that type of philosophy than you would, you would appreciate the book of five rings.

Speaker 2

48:32

 Got it, that's great. What is one question that you wish I would ask that I haven't.

Speaker 1

48:37

 Asked, I don't that I don't, you know, this was your show.

Speaker 2

48:41

 So I hit him, is it? I react. So it's been, it's been great. I love it. If there's anything you want to cover before we sign off feel free.

Speaker 1

48:55

 That's.

Speaker 2

48:57

 Okay. Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1

48:59

 It should be well-received and, you know, I think it's stories of adversity and listening others. Base adversity. Something that's really important, especially with social media. Everybody putting their best foot forward, you know. And you know that's what social media is all about it. There's a place for that, there's a place to brag and put your best foot forward and put a filter on and there's a place for that. There's a time for that but you know, too much of that too much, too much consumption of that. And seeing that and seeing people winning all the time can make you feel. Really small. If things is you are an entrepreneur like me things are really slow. So you know you might start out pouring every hole and you just may be a slow start, right? And that's — you feel that watching that on social media that everybody so far. No, so much farther ahead of you. So being able to have a podcast like this that kind of talks about it. Firstly, take the filters off, taking the rod out of it. I think it's really important. I think you're doing a great job. So kudos to you and I wish you all the success and yourself your business and your family and with your pocket moving forward.

Speaker 2

50:11

 Really appreciate that. Brian, that's awesome. Where can our listeners find you online?

Speaker 1

50:19

 I have a YouTube channel. Brian, shaves, if you just type in Brian chavous, you will find our YouTube. I do have wonderful podcast myself called by the block, every Thursday, I do a Facebook live for everyone, every Thursday live training every day. Thursday on Facebook live. And then you can always find me on by it. Rented profit, if you ever want to schedule a strategy call you just go to buy it meant profit.com. And you can also find me in any bookstore throughout the world. Just go to the real estate section and look for by it ran.

Speaker 2

50:49

 Across. There you go, love it. Fantastic Brian will thank you so much. I really appreciate you spending your time with us today. Good luck on the course if that's today or tomorrow, when you hit the.

Speaker 1

51:03

 Little practice, today we're heading to the go. Take now is little practice, Vice. We thank you. We appreciate it all. Good luck. We can.

Speaker 2

51:11

 Thank you so much for sharing your story and being vulnerable with us and really appreciate it. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. So the listeners out there, thank you all for spending your most valuable resource with us and that is your time. Thanks, everyone. Take care. Thanks so much for tuning in to this episode of the form.

Speaker 1

51:29

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Speaker 2

51:38

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Speaker 1

51:40

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